S3 E33 - Hit the SPOTlight with Quinn Creator Adam Craves

0:00 [MUSIC PLAYING] QuinnCast ladies in the house. All last, my G. Oh, my God. Oh, last, Muggy. What's that all about? I thought it was better than hello, Smuggy, because you can't be racist, but I went with-- Well, racist to all Spanish people now. So well done. Well done. You've just moved the racist elements of a different country. I am practicing my Spanish because I'm going to Spain soon, so I'm just practicing. Oh.

0:41 I mean, you going to Jules, we are doing a Queen Castle tour. Yeah, we're part of her luggage, right? We automatically fit, right? That's what I thought. I thought, yeah, because she wouldn't possibly leave us at home. No way! You're not leaving me in the US, are you kidding me? No, maybe you want some remain in the US to be-- No, do you, please. No, do you, please. I mean, if I'm telling you to shove me into a suitcase, you know, things aren't great. Yeah, she's not even dead. Oh, Lord. Lordy, Lord. And we're back for another hit the Spotlight episode. Oh, looks exciting. It looks exciting. Well, look, it's been a while since we did this, but it hasn't been its only but a couple of weeks. I know. But it does feel like a long time.

1:21 Does, doesn't it? It does. We are out of practice. We need to do, mama, mama, mama, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy. Red leather yellow leather, red leather yellow leather. Red spreader, red leather, yellow spreader, red spreader, yellow spreader. So who are we talking to in this episode of Hit the Spotlight? We are talking to somebody who I swear just came out of nowhere on the moon. Be careful. Did he wipe it up? Well, we will ask him shortly. We will ask him very soon. No, we won't. No, we won't. We will. [LAUGHTER] I'm sorry. You are talking to Adam Craves today. Oh, yeah. Yeah, very excited. And I would like to tell you both a little bit about him if that's OK with you.

2:02 Oh, I would love that. It's just with it. I am Ben Covea. So nice. So Adam is a voice actor who cares deeply about his work and how it lands with the listener. He's passionate about creating audios that feel authentic and intentional and believes in the power of storytelling to spark connection. He's also an advocate for open communication in the bedroom and he wants to help men feel more confident expressing their emotions. I love him already. I know. Absolutely. He sounds white. He sounds white too. Sweet for me to interview him. Well, we'll see what we can do to him during the interview and how he'll show us. What was that red, red spreader yellow spreader? Yeah, that's spreader yellow spreader.

2:42 So Adam Craves, I generally had heard of him in the last sort of month, a couple of months. But yeah, I'm really excited to get to know him because we literally know not that much about him. He's very mysterious because we do our homework here at Quinncast. Oh, yes. We do. And we're good researchers and he was tough to find stuff on. So I'm interested to interview him just to learn more because we say he's new on the scene. Maybe he's not. Maybe he's producing audios elsewhere in some secret layer. Layer? Layer. All right. He's got more. He's got more. And also, when we say we investigate, we are doing it for podcast purposes.

3:23 We do not advocate or promote any deep diving of any creator in this space or anywhere else. Thank you. Shall we get him in? Yeah, let's bring Adam in, shall we? [APPLAUSE] So Adam, welcome to the Quinncast studio. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you very much for having me. So we like, I don't know if you've listened to any of our episodes, we're not judging. But we are if you haven't. But we'd like to start off all of our interviews and chats with a little game just to warm us all up. So I'm just going to tell you what the game is. And then we're going to ask for your consent to play because we're all about consent here. Yes, I learned that.

4:04 I learned that very quickly once I started submitting. [LAUGHTER] The point is, I would submit something and I like, well, you need to make sure that she says yes. So-- [LAUGHTER] All about consent. Yes. Well, some of us are. So the game is called Craves List. Oh, lovely. And we are going to give you two clues to decide what type of craving we are describing. OK. Do we have Adam Craves your consent to play Craves List? Yes. [LAUGHTER] Excellent, so-- OK, here is round one. [MUSIC PLAYING] Again, I'm going to give you three clues, and then you guess what the craving is.

4:51 Clue number one, its smooth, rich, and melts at body temperature. Clue number two, ancient Aztecs, used it as currency. And clue number three, it's often a go-to after heartbreak. Well, let's see. Ancient Aztecs used it as currency. I would say chocolate. But it would also be cacao, which they probably use more than chocolate. Oh, look at this currency, man. Cacao level off, level off right there, yes. OK, bonus point, bonus point. You have bonus points. Now I'm curious, Adam, what's your go-to chocolate craving? Dark chocolate. I like 70% hot chocolate.

5:33 I do like hot cocoa, yeah. But if I'm just want something like at night, I love popcorn. I think there's one called evil something popcorn, which is great. It's just like out of the bag. But usually like a 70% dark chocolate would just hit that for me. It sounds better. It likes a bit of a cacao. Not too bitter, not too bitter, though. It's got just a little bit of-- It's not like 90%. OK, round two. Clue one, it's invisible, but addictive. Clue two, you might chase it on social media. Clue three, it feels good until it doesn't-- Oh gosh. That's a tough one. It's a tough one. Do you all know these?

6:14 Do you know the answers? Yeah. We have the answers in front of us. We have the answer key. I'm playing by myself, as usual. Yeah. OK. That's why you might pay for that. I was going to say like likes, but like-- Ooh, that's so close. Attention. [BEEPING] Yes, attention. Attention, yes. Really? Yeah, right. Oh, god, sure, I didn't think you were-- I didn't think you were going to get that. I'm under estimate of you. Yes. Oh, great. I did. I'm under estimate of you. As always, I knew all along you'd get it. Yeah, all right. God, it browned. You were always my favourite. Oh, god.

6:56 You know, we're never going to hear the last of that, Mr. Carbess. Oh, that's going to be the audio grime. I'm going to clip that. Oh, Joe, John, that's going to be your next tattoo. Fiddle that. Focca. So just a little follow up on that. What's your favourite way to get attention? As Adam Craves are in my regular life. Oh. Oh. How about both? I love reading the comments after a story. I love to get that kind of feedback, whether it's positive or negative. I like to, as you know, toss some humor into my stories occasionally. Yeah. And so I love to kind of get the feedback, because we'll get into it, but the way I do my stories are very specific to me.

7:36 In my regular life, I do a couple of different things, an artist. So I do photography, and I do, like, say art, which people tend to like. And then, I guess I do other stuff. So that's-- [LAUGHTER] That's about all I'll say. And, fair. Ready for the next one? Oh, yes. There's more, sure. Clue number one. It's socially acceptable, but slightly addictive. Clue number two. Morning people swear by it. And clue number three. Without it, you are not human before 10 AM. Like coffee? [PHONE RINGING] Yes.

8:18 Bam, you got it. I would not get these. I was like, morning sex? Or morning sex? Yeah. I told you we should have left that one in. See, I'll take morning sex over coffee any day, because-- I mean, I-- Morning sex is more than slightly addictive, but that's just me. So-- And you're addicted to coffee. All right, a little follow up to that, then what is your kind of coffee preference? Like, do you like an espresso shot and omate? What's kind of your go-to? I don't drink coffee at home, typically. I don't-- I just don't-- I enjoy coffee. I love the smell of coffee. I just-- it's just not my thing to do in the morning.

8:58 I have different things I'll do. I'll kind of go on like a little thing. So like right now, it's just apple cider vinegar and some honey in warm water, especially because I was kind of getting over it. I had like laryngitis. I've never had it before. Weird, because it's like, I did not feel sick at all, but my voice just wasn't going. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I love tea. I like tea a lot. We will make you think he was being British now. And then I'll make like a smoothie in the morning. But like, if I'm out, like at work or something, I will have coffee sometimes at work. They sometimes have coffee. And how do you take your coffee? How do I take my coffee? Yes. I like my coffee-- Like I like my women. Go ahead.

9:39 I'm just waiting for something for that. Sorry. I like no sugar. I usually take it just with like a little bit of milk or like a little bit of almond milk or just something like that. I like the taste of coffee, so I don't really put sugar in anything. I always think people that don't have sugar in their coffee they're just like so grown up. I look up to them. I can't be that person, but I look up to them. You know, growing up, we all we had in my house was like sugared cereal. And all the kids would come over to my house because they had like healthy cereal. And they like, can we have some fruit loops? And they're sprucing everything. All right, round four, just two more to go. OK. Clue number one, you can't buy it or fake it. Clue number two, it makes your brain produce oxytocin.

10:20 Clue number three, it's what every romcom is built on. Or get-- [LAUGHTER] But I want to see that romcom which you gave me. Yeah, thinking, thinking, no. That's what they've been missing. I would say, can't buy me love. [PHONE RINGING] Oh, yes. I'm so running. And you dropped a beat on song. I mean, the king is going to hear about this. We're going to adopt you. And he can carry a tune. I do. So Adam, what's one thing that makes you feel loved? He's talking about like my five, what are the five love languages? I think I like acts of servant. I mean, I like them all.

11:01 I was actually having this conversation with a friend. It's like, they're all something. But like, the acts of service make me feel loved. Quality time makes me feel loved. Like, acknowledgment of wanting to hang with me or wanting to be with me or like, returning my tax messages. Yeah. That's very bicep. Yeah, me, me, me, me. So how many times have I-- I know in my close friends, obviously. But there's like, you know, we have those peripheral friends, which we think are friends, and then we don't hear back from them when you're like, hey, what's going on? Yeah. Anyway, anyway, it does. It makes me feel like heard. Nice. I love that. I love that. Right, final round, Adam, and I know I can sense the sadness already, but it's over. But one more to go. Here we go. Clue one. It shows up after midnight.

11:41 Clue two. You convince yourself it's harmless fun. Clue three. It can lead to a good time. It shows up after midnight. It can lead to a good time. Huh, that's a good one. It's not morning wood. You would need evening wood. True evening wood. It can lead to a good time. It shows up after midnight after many a rap song has spoken about it. Passing around for it. Oh, really? Nothing good happens after 2 a.m. is what I've heard about it. Oh, man, I'm not going to get this because I'm not that hip. Never heard that. Never heard that. Okay, another clue. It has something to do with a bottom with a, like a butt.

12:22 Yeah. Millions of your ponies. Really? Ring, ring. Hello. Oh, God. What are they called? I used to do them. British, British, British call it the spell it out. B. A booty call. All right. Jesus. Well, edit that so it sounds like you got it right away, don't you worries? I don't. Okay, I'm not, you know, I'm humble. I can admit when I don't know somebody. Generally, I thought for that harder than I thought for most of the orgasms in my life. I've never done that before. So I don't even, so it's just not in my lexicon. I don't believe you for a second. Me. Or I do it all the time. I'm like, aw, sweet.

13:03 I feel just so naive. Oh, sweet. And the final follow up question for that is other than sex, what's the one thing that you would leave your sofa for after midnight? I mean, what the obvious is to go to the bathroom. Probably because my cat is like whining for food and I forgot to feed him. Oh, yeah. It's nothing, nothing interesting. I could say. Well, it's the call of the pussy, so that's interesting. Yeah, there you go. God, he's such a bitch. Let me tell you. No, no, no, no. Bitch. Oh, thank you so much for playing our game. Yeah, thank you. That was fun. You did really well. I'm really impressed.

13:43 I don't know about these. Damn. So I told you, that was easy. I'm learning. No, they weren't. He's just smart. Don't discredit his brilliant. Okay. He's smart, so easy. He's feeling all nice and warm now. Yeah, that was great. That was a great warm up, thank you. Okay, so now we're getting to the interrogation. Where were you then? The fourth. May the-- I was on a booty call. I was on a booty call. I was on a booty call drinking coffee and 40-- I called you. I called you. I covered it in melted chocolate. All right, so we're going to start with probably an obvious question, but we are truly genuinely curious. What inspired you to explore sensual storytelling? And where did you come from? Well, as we were talking a little bit before we had started, I had a friend who was a subscriber to Queen.

14:28 And we were just chatting one day and she was talking about the stuff that she was listening to and I was inquiring about it. I had not heard of the app. And I was like, "Oh, that's interesting." And then I listened to a couple and I was like, "Oh, there's some good stuff." And not so good stuff. And I was like, "I think I could-- I have participated in real life, like, you know, with a partner or a girlfriend or something." And having a dialogue like that. And I enjoyed it very much. And so I was like, "I wonder if I could do this." And she was talking and explaining who she liked and what was interesting. And I was like, "Okay." And so I gave it some thought and then I kind of just put it away. And then I guess like a, I don't know, maybe a month or two later, for somebody who was on my mind, asked her about it.

15:09 And she's like, "Yeah, so I looked into like how you audition." And I had a microphone for other stuff that I do. And I just made a little audio. And I did like three parts. My initial audition was the first audio that I released was like the therapist one. Oh, yeah, yeah. So that was like the first. Oh, yeah. What's strange is that I kind of forget why we're here. Yeah. Oh, we see that. That's all professions. Yeah. It's just us having a conversation and like, "Oh, right. You've actually listened to these." Yes. So, yeah, I did something like that. I just, I did like the one that you hear on coin is different. I hadn't re-recorded and create the story.

15:50 But I did sort of something like that. They give you, like when you submit something, they give you, it's like make a little short story or something and they give you some ideas or whatever. And so I just did like three sections. So I like did a little section in the introduction and then like a middle and then like sort of like the end. And then yeah, and then they reached out and they're like, "Hey, we think we like this. We like to offer you a chance to do it a try." Almost. Yeah. And then I had when you're younger, you're like, "What's your poor name?" And so I was like, "Oh." And so Adam Craze was always like something I had created that a long time ago. But I never did anything about it. It was just like something I was like, "What is my name going to be?" So that's where it came from. When you had like grown up and you had to choose your poor name. Oh, your name? Yeah. So people from your past might stumble onto the app and go, "Adam Craze, we're going to submit it."

16:35 I remember that guy in math class. Yeah. He really tickled me. I wonder what it... What? So here, so let me just sit there record straight here. So that was a big deal for me because obviously I have... And it'd be interesting to talk about this, but I'll say at my age, what's interesting about porn is like it's changed dramatically from when I was younger hunting for it, obviously, until now where it's everywhere. I don't consider what I do porn though because unlike when I had talked with a partner or something like that when I was actually engaging in that, like, I'm literally in my booth here doing an audio, creating an audio, I'm not doing anything on my end. I initially tried to do that. But then I got so distracted and I couldn't think of words and it just wasn't... It wasn't fun.

17:15 It wasn't fun. It was a mediocre at best. And so, yeah, because I make notes on my computer, I improv all my stuff, except for the last two that I've done. And so I'll usually make a couple notes just so I can kind of stay within the story. It's different than like an only fans or something because I'm not participating in it. Just for the listener and I'm acting. Yeah. And when your friend, when you would listen to those couple of audios, could you say which when you listen to, do you remember who it was? No. That's okay. That was a very dramatic pause that you... I think I heard that. I think I listened to Naudio first because that's like the go-to, I guess. Right. He's like the dude. And then I listened to it.

17:57 And Naudio was great. I'm not going to put anybody down. I just had a different take on what I could do. I think everybody has their own style, which is great. And every listener has what they like, which is great. And I thought that I could just provide a unique perspective on it, I think. And you really do. That was going to be one of my comments. It's like, and it makes sense now that you say most of yours are improvised. Yes. Because it does feel very, very kind of authentic, real, not manufactured, not curated. That yeah, it's a little like, it's fun and playful. And so it makes sense now with the improvising that, so it comes across as, yeah, not so packaged, which is lovely. Yeah, when Quinn offers, I don't know if this is like their standard, but they say, you know, we can do four a month.

18:40 At first, you're like, yeah, it's no problem. And then it's like, wait, I think of four different stories like every month. The first six that I did, and this was not intentional. This is just sort of how it happened. But the first six that I did all became like part of this Adam verse. But that was not, I had no idea that that was going to happen. Like the first one was the therapist and the second one was the roommate. And I thought it would be fun if there was some kind of connection between them, like some kind of, some kind of connection. And then the third one I did, I think, was the Adam and the therapist. And then, and I was like, oh, well, maybe, maybe the roommates are seeing these therapists. Female roommate goes to see her male therapist and she's talking about, I don't know. It's a little convoluted if you listen to it because I didn't create it as a whole thing. So like, you know, there's probably things that don't line up.

19:22 But by the like, six one Quinn was like, so is, are you gonna, are you only gonna do this? Are you gonna do something like else? And I was like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how this works. So then I just started to make like one offs. And at some point, I'm sure that that story, those stories will come back. They've been like, percolating in my mind. But yeah, and then I just started doing one offs and I was like, okay, well, how am I going to, what am I doing? And so then I just started to create, what's nice is like the way that I do it, I think I create a world where kind of anything can happen, depending on like what I set up. They were getting very meta and I think that was what Quinn was like, okay, like so the storyteller is listening, but then the, you're talking to the story, like in the, and the roommate one, Adam comments on the narrator at one point and they had like a back and forth.

20:07 I thought that was hilarious, but they were like, that's weird. I love meta. Yeah, that's probably a file to Clevver for, for women, you know, I mean, they just want to want to, you know, really? Right. Well, there's got to be a balance, you know, there has to be a balance. So finding that balance is, is interesting. But also like, it's got to entertain me. Like I have to enjoy doing it. So I mean, the Adam first part of it, was that something you came up with or did you have these audios somewhere else before and they were transferred to Quinn? No, no, I made them specifically for Quinn. Okay. For Quinn. They, like, how long did it take Quinn to get back to you? Because all of a sudden we started seeing these videos from Quinn, you know, using your audios and next thing we know, you're 21 audios in and you have 350,000 plates.

20:50 You just came out of nowhere, I feel like. Oh, yeah, I don't know. I just, I came in like a regular. You know, I'm older than 30. I'd say so I've had, you know, I've lived some life. I've had experience like talking in front of people. I've had experience like engaging and, and yeah, that's all I say. So I don't know. I just, I just, I did what I thought would be interesting and arousing and hot. And I was listening to or reading the, the comments and sort of gauging what people found hot or what people found interesting. And I was finding my own voice because I, having not done this before, like, it, it's an experiment in what am I comfortable with and what am I good at and what do I have to learn early on?

21:40 I was doing like a lot of like mouth, you know, like pretending I was like going down and someone. And a couple of people were like, ew, that's disgusting. Like, that's, I don't want to hear that. I'm sure there were people who liked it, but it's like, okay. And so what I started to do more of was try to add more words and description, but like one thing I don't do a lot of is sound effects. Like, I feel like, you know, I'm not, I'm not spending like hours producing this. Like the, the longest ones I've spent are the last two that I did, which were the Halloween ones because those are completely like a narrative version and I've added some sound effects and stuff. And as those I have to like figure out the story and all that. I like the spontaneity of it because and that was one of the things that I, I really pulled out of listening to the other audios.

22:22 Like, I can tell when something is, is being read versus created. And for me, the kind of, the kind of things that when I would watch something, for instance, if I would watch porn or something, like I preferred something that felt more spontaneous. And in the moment, then less produced. And not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just a personal preference for me. And so it also gave me the leeway to like, be funny or like when something popped up in my mind, like throw it out there and like, you know, a couple of mine are all over the place. Like the one in the office that I'm like trying to do an interview and like, my partner comes in as under the desk, like, that was, that was just making me crack up because I just thought of the funny, funny scenario.

23:04 And like the, the cop one, I thought was also like that because it was like ridiculous. It was just so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, I love it. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, I think the audience is split between, you know, sound effects anyway. Some people like them. Yeah. Some people like a little bit. Some people like loads, you know, there is some seriously dodgy effects going out there and there's some seriously incredibly good sound effects going out there. Yeah. But it's very subjective. So, I, I like both, I like a little bit of SFX and I like zero because I like to be able to immerse myself and sometimes the sound effect takes me away the scene. But kind of to get to your question just so you know, like, I really did not know the world of erotica. I was not familiar with audio erotica too much.

23:46 I just learned this thing called book talk. I don't know, I'm not in this world at all. Yeah. And so, it's really been interesting engaging because I started a TikTok and an Instagram so I could actually engage with my, my listeners and like get feedback and stuff. And so, this is a world I'm just not familiar with. Like, it's really, I feel very lucky that people have taken to it and enjoyed like what I've created. But it wasn't like I came from some other world and that I was going to be like, oh, now I'm going to take my, my talents and bring it over here. It was, this is all very new for me. And so I'm kind of figuring myself out as we go. New person on the block, your interview therapist at this time of recording has 75 and a half thousand plays. For a first audio, do you realize how good that is?

24:28 I think that, you know, it's interesting because I can see the numbers and I think that, you know, they, they marketed me as like a new audio person. So I think that definitely helped. But I've seen like the numbers kind of go down over the, over the course and I was talking to somebody who was saying, you know, it's, you can see like what people like, daddy is sleeping, got a big bump there because obviously that's like super hot. But and I'll go, I'll go back to that kind of stuff. But it's, it's also like the numbers are important obviously because I would like to get more views and what now that they're giving out roses, you can get like a little bit more because let's not forget like I'm, but it also like I get, you know, money, I get paid. It's a job. It's nice to have like that extra income. And again, it's like a balance of like what I like and what I want to provide for the listener and finding that balance of what's going on.

25:12 So with the, with the two that I did, the Halloween ones, like I don't think the views are as high because it's just not as, it's not my normal stuff. You know, it's, there's a lot of story involved and obviously I get to like the hot parts at the end. If there's a lot more story there and I don't know if everyone, you know, wants to listen to 30 minutes of, of story when it was just like, I just want to get off right now. Let's go. Yeah. I mean, yeah, but yeah, and there are, there's so many audio's like people, you know, listeners have their playlists, right? So it's like, yeah, guaranteed finisher playlist is going to be a quick little blank session. There's going to be like story sessions is going to be like, yeah, there's, there's room for everything. Yeah. What is the, and I don't even know this, but what is the, is there a minimum length of time? So we believe seven minutes, I believe seven minutes.

25:55 Oh gosh. Yeah, multiplying up by five. Yeah, but that's, that's rare. I mean, I think that's, I think they're, they average around 18 to 20, I would say, soon as I see something that says 48 minutes, I'm like, scroll it to the big second. Yeah. Depends on the creator, someone who takes three telling, yeah, totally depends on the creator for me. And you're saying about your numbers at them, but I think what also needs to be taken into consideration is if, you know, somebody else drops something that's a very popular, you know, daddy, dorms, they're, they're very popular stuff. There's certain, you know, tropes and kinks that are, they're more popular than others. So if somebody or two or three others, creators drop that type of content and you're dropping a story content, you know, yours is a, a smaller pocket of the audience than, than some of it.

26:43 So I don't think it's a judgment or, you know, a marking of what you've produced. It's just the timing. It's just the timing. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. But that's also what's cool about this is that you have, I mean, I can't imagine like producing one a week, you know, four a month is going to be incredibly challenging, but it is also like kind of a cool way to test different things, right? So if one week it doesn't hit as well as you had hoped, there's always next week and you get to just read the feedback and, yeah, especially when you say like certain words that people don't love. Well, what? What? Jinks. I didn't know what, so I had to go back and feel like, okay, you know, you know, there's certain things that you say when you're like in the moment, then you walk out of that and you're like, did I just, did that turn me on for, and that was weird.

27:25 I think I know the one you're on about. I want him to say it. Action, I'm not going to say it, but I know what word I don't. But see, I thought there were two different ones because once I called like a, a, a, a clitoris like a little cock and people kind of freaked out about that. See, I think it's me. And then I said, I remember that. Yeah, I remember that. And I said, Peehole and also that didn't go over too well. Although some people backed me up, you know, and I challenge anyone, anyone to be like super horny and like, you know, when you're down there, you've got to see everything. Yeah. Yeah. Two of them. And now, you know, you're going to have the fun to it. Certain things. Like walk around thinking about that in real life, like if, if I was, you know, in a state of a rousal, you're much more open to like those kinds of, I, not, I, I shouldn't say you.

28:11 I say, I'm much more open to that kind of like dialogue. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's, you know, there's certain dialogue that I wouldn't use in an office like Peehole. Like Peehole. Yeah. But I said, maybe you would use that in your office. You know, you don't jump right, right to the Peehole. You have to, like, no, you don't. You know, and you still couldn't beat the ultimate for me. I'm not going to you. I can't. I'm not going to jump out there, like, say it, it's your, um, I'm not yucking it at all, but bundle of nerves for a clitoris. So what, wait, what are you saying? You saying, do, do we do not say that? Do not say that. Do not say it. Don't say it. No, don't say bundle of nerves. Do you guys, did I say that? No, no, no, you didn't. That doesn't feel like something that would come out of my mouth. Any what we're going. No, I'm joking. See what I did. I can't help it.

28:51 I just can't help it. Honestly, I'm trying to melt it. I'm sorry. All right. As well. What are your real same lines, Adam? What do you hope your listeners get out of your audio? Like, what are your, what's your intention behind them? Um, well, it's interesting. I was thinking about this. So, uh, initially I just wanted them to be like turned on and, you know, get pleasure and, enjoy the, enjoy the audio. And then I wanted them to just, you know, I wanted them to, to laugh and have fun with it, too. But what's been interesting is I've gotten some feedback from people and it's, um, it's actually helped them in their sex life. And that is really, really important for me. I've always been a very strong proponent of like communicating the bedroom, both men and women, and I know obviously more women are self identifying. I said, let's say, like, listen to my stories like that.

29:33 But I've had feedback from people who said, I have been able to communicate with my partner in a way that I haven't been able to do that before. That's, wow. That, it dawned on me that like, maybe some of what I'm doing can be helpful in that way in like how I'm communicating and how I'm using my words, uh, because I take for granted, I am able to communicate those things and it doesn't embarrass me to like, communicate those kinds of needs. And I know that that's not universal, especially depending on like how you grew up or what, what sort of environment you grew up in or what sort of dogma you grew up in. It's always been interesting to me. So like sexuality in general has always been interesting to me. And how, from a larger perspective, the, I'd say, hypocrisy of at least the country that I live in about you shouldn't say certain things or certain ideas or certain beliefs or certain, um, sexualities are not correct or, you know, are not under acceptable.

30:22 Under certain religions or whatever. And that is always piss me off. Yeah. Because I feel like sexuality is a very personal and fluid world. And it's, so it's such a wonderful thing to be able to see someone who is comfortable in their sexuality, living their own life. Uh, I don't mean like in the bedroom, I just mean like living who they want to be. And so I think that with the repression and it's a lot of self repression too, there's a lot of guilt and shame that comes along with sexuality. And that manifests itself in people trying to take over the world, you know. And, and certain ways. Uh, and, and not only like, you know, obviously big things like that, but just in our own world. Like you can, we all know people who are probably sexually repressed in some way. Uh, you know, I'm not saying that listening to my audience will, will save that, but I do believe that being able to communicate with yourself in an honest way is incredibly healthy.

31:11 And I think that a lot of women and men, but I think a lot of women might not be fulfilling their, their innate sexual needs because they cater to their partner and they're afraid to speak up in the bedroom. And I think that that is really important to like get in touch with, with that. Yeah. So if my audience can help in that way, I love that. Uh, I had one person reach out and say the opposite, instead of being able to communicate with her partner in a positive way, it actually made her realize that this was not the right relationship for her. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. And she actually, she wrote me maybe a month ago and told me that and then she gave me an update and she said that she had left her partner and she felt great about herself, you know, and it was, she just felt very empowered. So I don't know exactly because I'm not like in my audio saying like, there's no like subliminal messages.

31:59 Yeah, the director's Todd has that. And I didn't inquire with her exactly like what, what it was about my audience did that, but it doesn't necessarily matter because I don't want that to necessarily influence like how I make what I'm, what I'm doing. Yeah. Yeah. What matters is that they're able to communicate. And the other side of that, because I'm not speaking for women, I'm just saying like what I'm getting in the response. The other side of that is I, there is a massive problem with like male, the ability of men to like express their feelings and the ability of men to truly like be in touch with their feelings. When you take, when you take like that male toxicity culture and you add the availability of easy porn to that and then like younger men are learning how to have sex and communicate by watching porn.

32:46 And the communication in porn, I'd say a lot of porn is not super great. And as we know, it's just like as soon as the guy comes, it's over. Yeah. Mission success. There you go. Yeah. I tried, I tried, I don't always do this. I try to put aftercare in some of my audios, just like a little bit of like day and and while. But and I know, I know men don't necessarily listen to a lot of my audios, but I have heard from a couple people that when they talk to their male partners, two people let their male partners listen to my audios and that has helped them communicate a little bit better. I think that like it's really, really important. And I haven't figured out exactly how to do this like either in my normal life or within this, but like there is a severe epidemic of male toxicity because men have to be able to own their masculinity.

33:32 It's a very important energy and women have a masculine energy too. And to be able to own your femininity as a man and also your masculinity and understand like what it actually means to be masculine. It doesn't mean to be a complete asshole where you have no feeling and no empathy. It means that you can, you can be a provider, you can be a, a, a sustainer, you can have powerful male energy. But you don't have to be oblivious to everything else around you and just be like an island onto yourself where you can't connect. Like that's one of the reasons that I'm in this men's group is because these are other guys who have your families or, or lives who are dealing with stuff who aren't necessarily comfortable talking to their male friends about things within their life because they're like, well, maybe I'll be shamed if I say like I was crying the other day or something made me upset, you know, or I was feeling very emotional towards this.

34:21 I don't know how to like process that emotion. I know it's weird to be like talking about it like when you're like, yeah, but you do like erotic audios. But there's something in it for me about communicating. And if men I think can communicate better in the bedroom and be in touch with their own sexuality, I think we would honestly be in a better place because it's very individual. It starts very individually and then it manifests itself in society. When did it start with you Adam? You're saying that young boys, they're very influenced by porn, etc. and how to communicate with a partner. When did that realization hit you growing up? I think I was always comfortable talking about, so I got, so in my, you know, my real life, I was introduced to porn very early on because back when I was growing up, you had porn magazines and you had VHS and you had to hunt for these, you had to hunt these things down.

35:11 Which is one of the things that's like sucks for like any, you know, youth growing up now is that you don't realize how easy it is, you know, and there's so much out there, obviously. And like trying to put up barriers and protect children from seeing stuff they shouldn't see is very difficult, you know, it's a whole other conversation. But obviously as you're growing through puberty, like you're going to be seeing things, you're going to be learning about things. And so where do you learn about that stuff? And you know, when, when I was growing up and going through that, obviously like all that, you know, you're talking about stuff, but I remember two very specific things. My mom worked at a place that was like, well, she worked at like a pharmacy and behind the farm, it was like a drugstore pharmacy. So like, and I would go to work with her sometimes. And I remember one time I went into the bathroom in the back, you know, not the public, but I think in the back.

35:55 And someone who had worked there left a magazine out and it was like a penthouse or a hustler. And I was way too young to be seeing this. And so I saw this stuff and obviously like it hit something in my brain, but I was really, I really gravitated towards like the stories, like the penthouse forum or whatever they look at. And I remember like, I would rip them out and I would take them home and I was like learning to read, like, you know, obviously a little older, but like, you know, I'm reading like erotica. And so like the story itself always stuck with me. And so like when I was developing, obviously I would like, you know, I'd saw porn and stuff. But like there was something about the stories and the words that I just found really interesting. And then the other thing that looking back on something in turns like nostalgia is like when you're growing up like in the 80s or 90s and you had to find porn, that was an adventure.

36:37 You know, you'd be like, Hey, you know, you know, Johnny, can I come over and hang out and you're like, yeah, sure. And then you're like, okay, I'm just going to go to the bathroom. I'll be right back. And like you start like hunting in the in like the parents house. Like I was dad's got porn around her somewhere. You're like, where's the drawer? I was like, yeah, yeah. I was like, yeah. Yeah. And you find something and you're like, Oh, I've gotten it. Are you stealing? You know, the dad's not going to be like, what happened to my porn little Johnny? But that was like a big thing and then you take it into school and you'd hold it up like, you know, Andrew, what was the guy's name in 16 candles when he held up the panties? I am. Anyway, don't do that. If you're listening, but anyway, but there's something, there's something like adventurous about that in nostalgic instead of just being like, I'm going to turn my computer on and hit this and just like, boom, bitch.

37:24 You know, it's just you're always the journey. And that's part of it. It's the journey, but it's also like, I mean, those were coveted. You know, you had like a couple that you would watch hundreds of times. But in terms of like what it does to, I don't know the answer. I don't know what it does to, to the youth today to see as much as they're seeing. I imagine, I imagine it's not awesome. It's not great. And now that like open AI is opening, they just announced that like they're going to have for you know, chat GPT open AI owns chat GPT and they just announced that they're going to add erotica to, to the platform now. And so, you know, what's really, what's really scary is the idea of having, you know, these characters, these AI characters that anyone, I mean, obviously adults, but underage can get access to.

38:05 It's a really crazy world that we're stepping into. Yeah, it's tough. And I feel like, you know, the, I have to say the youth, but I'm talking about teenagers, young adult, you know, like early 20s, I feel like they're already so desensitized. You know, if they have a, I don't know, they log into a porn site and they have to wait like 10 seconds for it to load, it's like a huge deal because everyone's so used to now the instant gratification, I can get porn, you know, wherever I want, whenever I want. And it's not just like, I mean, it's one thing to be like, oh, you have to wait, but it's also like, how does that affect interpersonal communication and interpersonal relationships? So that's really the end result of everything. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like, yeah, we have access to all this stuff and like watching a 2.5 hour movie is like torture, but how is it, how is it going to affect the interpersonal communication?

38:46 I mean, like with, I got a buddy who's a, who's a teacher and he was saying like the difference between pre-pandemic and post-pandemic for his students is immense and anybody that was like in a bubble and had the ability to, to still create, especially when you're like in a middle school age, to create interpersonal relationships, the kids that weren't are really lacking in their ability to communicate. I think it's, I think for a long time, you know, porn has had not the greatest impact on kids and particularly young men as you're saying that they're just what their condition to believe of how relationships work and the dynamic between them and the communication or lack thereof, it just reinforces that thinking that they are deserving of on-demand pleasure.

39:26 Yeah. Just so not the case. And so, so I think, you know, to circle all the way back to what you were saying, Adam, about the impact of the work that you're doing, which I know, and we say this to a lot of creators when they come on, that, you know, on the surface, it can seem like, you know, you're just creating audio orodic, and you know, to turn people on and get them off, whatever, as you're hearing from your listeners, it's so much more than that, at least for women, we hear it all the time. It's the case for us that it is really powerful work that is giving us language that was not provided to us elsewhere, to even not only give us the language to communicate what we want, but to even learn what it is we like and want. Exactly. You know, listening to an audio going, "Oh my God, that's a little couch-tingle, I didn't know that was going to do that for me." Yeah. So it's like, you get to learn stuff that it's, so it's really, it's very impactful medium.

40:09 Yeah, basically, yeah. Possibly, yeah. I had someone sent me a message yesterday and it was, all it said was like, listen, I forgot which one they listened to, but it was more of like a DOM from my perspective. And I think I start with like, get the fuck in your knees. And they wrote to me, they're like, "Well, learn something new." And I just inquired, I was like, "What, you know, she told me, and she said, "I work in a very, I'm an A type personality, and I have to be in control of everything in the field that I work in." And she said, "And I've never, I never knew this about myself." You know, I don't know if she has a partner or not or she's married or whatever, but like, it just might not be a dynamic between them that she would even think about doing, but that was something that opened up for her inside. Maybe she can explore with her partner or...

40:50 You can honestly say, I didn't come out as kinky until I was 50. And it was because of Quinn and the communities. It wasn't the dumb thing. And so I've heard from hundreds of women in these A.E. communities who have found their enjoyment of sex or something new they didn't know about themselves. You know, irrelevant whether they're sharing it with a partner, they just found something about their own pleasure and their own desire that they're now able to talk about without fear of judgment, persecution or ridicule. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's what I've heard most from our listeners, from if you listen to any sort of audio-erotica platform is people are starting to be like, "I deserve this pleasure. I never thought of it this way, but this is something I want, and it's okay for me to want it without feeling that shame or feel that.

41:33 Like, "Oh, is this okay?" That's the biggest thing with listeners that I've heard. Completely agree. Yeah, and that's the mentality that I hope everyone can have because it just makes as soon as you start repressing things, the rest of your life just starts to in subtle ways show that. Yeah, so if any VA sits in front of us and says that they're not impacting women positively or men positively, then I'm going to tell you to shut the fuck up because I can line up 200 women right now that will tell you differently. I mean, even circling back Adam to what you said about the person who messaged you about how she ended up leaving her relationship. I mean, that is huge because of listening to these things, she was able to actually say, "I deserve more than what I have right now, unbelievable."

42:13 Yeah, one of the other things, I'm trying to figure out doing personal stuff because I've had some people ask if I can record personal stuff for them. So I'm trying to figure out how to do that just monetarily and whatever. What's interesting is I haven't had anyone reach out and say, "Can I have a personal, erotic, sexual audio?" I've had three people reach out and say, "Can you give me an affirmation's audio?" Tell me that I'm a good person. Tell me that I'm worthy and deserving. And it's just like, "I want to hand it, breaks my heart because I can't imagine this world that they're living in." And like, that they just don't get that at all and they need it, they need it desperately but they're not getting it from either their family or relationships. So that was interesting. But I'll order an audio and it will be, "Get on your fucking knees."

42:54 That's what it's going to be. Yeah, that will be smart. And it's the cameo offers that, right? Right? Does now? Right. Does now? So, to ask you a question, what do you think is the biggest thing that you've learned about women since then? Oh, about women. That they're fucking kinky. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Every time. Oh my god, what? Every time I was like, "I don't know, this might be too much." We were like, "More, more." Even if we didn't know we were, then exactly. Yeah, they are just as kinky. If not, honestly, kinkier than men because I feel like women are more in touch with even though we're talking about women realizing they're sexuality, I just feel like they're more willing to open themselves up to new experiences like that.

43:39 Do you realize how long we've been repressed? We have volcanoes of repression that we need to fire out onto the blow. It's a blow. Yeah, and it's literally. So yeah, and also just like what they're into. I never really heard the word "fair all too much," but it's being tossed around quite a lot. Oh, that's my middle name. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting to get that feedback and to see what it is that really gets someone going. Yeah, that's the power of this work is that it gives us permission to, and especially in these communities that the creators then create, and to speak with other women and be like, "Oh, my God.

44:19 I'm not a weirdo, you too." So yeah, we're learning what we like, or we're learning to feel safe voicing what we like through these audios, so. And to love your body, too. And one of the things I started to do, just to really pay attention to the female anatomy, and talk about different parts and pay attention, because again, it's like if you watch porn, you won't really know what to do when you're down there, so if you're going down on someone, what do you do? And for a person who isn't super comfortable with a female anatomy, it can be very overwhelming. And find the clitoris, pin the tail on the clitoris. (Laughter) You know, I'll probably enjoy that, but my spinning probably wouldn't. Which is the next title of my next audio.

45:01 Yeah, perfect. Oh my God. If genuinely. Oh my God, please make that your next audio. See? Fantastic. I mean, we have a sticker that says, "Locate the clitoris." So our quintesticker? Yeah, but it's true. It's like, and once you get there, what the fuck do you do with it? It's like, so I try, and I'm not saying that, like, I, you know, I never took a class on this, but at my own experience, I have learned certain things, and I think I try to describe that in my audios. I try to make a person who's listening really be able to know what's going on, as opposed to just saying, "I'm going down and you know." Yeah, yeah. I try to make it more visceral in a way. One of the male feedback that we get is that, you know, how do you know what you're doing wrong if nobody tells you? But I think women for a long time didn't dare say that, you know, can you just move a little bit to the left or no?

45:47 Keep doing what you do. You know, we were very afraid to do that. Now, with the newfound confidence that we're developing, we're now able to, you know, to guide and instruct and tell, and I think men now being able to accept that as not being a "your rubbish" criticism. Right. And listen, so how do you feel that the audiological world helps you as a man do that? Well, let's see. Well, one, I want to just talk to what you just said there. Like, the ability for someone to take criticism as a positive thing, I think is, it can be difficult, because I think there can be, it can be very reactionary to, like, feeling insecure about what you're doing and then being told to do something else and then thinking that you're wrong.

46:27 Man carry a lot of shame. For me, like, part of it is obviously trying to turn on a woman, but like if a man were to listen or if a woman were to let a man listen to me, I'm very specific in what I'm saying. And I try to hint at, like, you know, listening to her breathing is really important. Like just in real life, like if I was to give a class on this, it's like, listen to how she's breathing. You can tell if you're doing something right by listening how she's breathing. Change the technique. You know, where you're touching, change like the curvature of your tongue, change how hard or how soft you're doing something because it's a give and take. Like that's even what if it's a dumb, sub sort of thing, it's still a give and take. Everything's a give and take. And so you have to, you know, and it's okay to say like, do you enjoy this? Is this good?

47:07 What do you like? You know, especially when you're getting into other, and I'll answer your question, but especially if you're getting into like other things. So like anal sex, right? That's not something I learned the hard way. That's not something you should just jump into. If you jump into it, there's a problem. Yeah, I will never, yeah, I will never include that in one of my stories. It was horrible. Okay. I appreciate that. Yeah. It's okay to talk about it, right? It's okay to like say like, hey, you know, if you're, if you're into it and you guys are like talking about it, like, let's do that tonight. You know, I think that there's this like shame in planning and like shame in like talking about something. It's almost like there's this belief that like we can talk about sex in the moment, but we're not going to talk about it before because that like ruins the moment or anything, but it's like both with like three sums, multiple people and with like stuff like anal sex, like having a conversation before makes the experience so much better.

47:58 Yeah. You know, like I have had a couple of my life and not like a crazy three-some person, but like it was always better when it wasn't just like, let's just see how much we can drink and then maybe this will happen. And you know, as opposed to it's like, hey, this is where we're both, we're all interested in this. Let's talk about it. Yeah. And so everybody's on the same page and everybody's comfortable because I can tell you like how many how many times an occurrence like that happened and it was like going into it, everybody felt okay and then one person suddenly doesn't feel okay, but they don't know how to say no or you want to have anal sex, but you like don't talk about it. So the person is afraid to like do is do shing the right word or like just clean themselves. Yeah.

48:39 And then you're like, you're covered in shit. You know, it's like, what? You know, because it can, if you're into that, it can be a really wonderful experience. And so what I'm, what I'm hoping in terms of like anyone is like, there's, it's okay to talk about stuff before him. It's okay to talk about it when you're not horny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, to make it all better on the other side. And answer to your questions, much tell me again, what the question was. Oh my God. So all I can think of is backdoor action now. Sorry. Backdoor. Backdoor. And how many partners I've had who have accidentally, you know, knocked on the slipped in. And it's like, where are you going? And it's like, Oh, well, you know, I'm in now.

49:19 It's like, you know, there's no turning back. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I just like what you were saying out of it's, you know, it's interesting to think about talking about something in advance as for play in and of itself. You know, it's like, you know, you can't talk about it till you're in the, in the heat of the moment. Because it does feel strange to like, oh, you can't just talk about it unless you're like kind of doing it. But you know, that could be its own for play of like anticipating what's to come and preparing accordingly, whether it's communication or animals. Yeah. Well, I think it, yeah, exactly. If it's not something that's, that's automatically erotic, like, do ushing or animals or whatever, there can be like this yuck factor to it.

50:00 But it's, you know, it's always better to talk about that kind of yuck than the actual yuck. Yeah. Yeah. And I think like maybe even just like we're saying like changing just the way you're talking about it, because you know, I've known a lot of people in relationships would be like, Oh, God, I don't want to plan out sex. I just want to have it. So if you're thinking about it like that, of course, you're going to go into it in a negative way. But if you change your mindset with it and approach it a little bit differently and say, you know, we're going to talk, we're going to talk about this so that it's better when we're actually doing it, you know, like that can completely change everybody's mindset. Totally. And then there's nothing wrong with like, you know, not talking about sex and then just doing it. Like there's room for this room tonight. Oh, God, hope, oh, my God.

50:41 Yeah. And so to shift a shift a little bit into like technique of you know, of the of the audio you create, like what kind of kind of vocal technique I guess do you lean toward or use to create intimacy? I mean, literally like technically like distance from the mic. Okay. How am I, my gain turned up louder so they can pick up like breathing and stuff like that? Yeah, because Quinn has these parameters that you have to hit in terms of loudness and everything like that. So it's a little wild to kind of figure out, just like technical stuff. So it's all kind of sounds the same when you listen to it. You know, I record in a booth with a microphone and headphones so I can hear basically what the listener is hearing. And I think that those sort of things like the breathing, it's all of the physiological things I think add to it. And like an audio, if I was just doing like a, I guess a regular audio book or something, I wouldn't, you know, be breathing and stuff like that.

51:26 It wouldn't be like ASMR, but they is like a little bit more ASMR involved. But I will also, you know, back away if I need to and get close or whatever. And then just changing my voice like if I do more of a submissive like when I was doing the mommy thing, like I'll raise my voice up a little bit and I'll lower it, you know, if I'm doing more dumb stuff. How does that go? How does that go? It costs, that's going to cost you. No, for free, there's much. You can do it. I love it. He knows his worth. And that's on repeat. But it's also me trying to, trying to figure it out. I mean, like, I was like, am I going to have like a voice for this?

52:07 Like the actual tone of my voice. And like, who was, who was Adam? Because like, and the first one, Adam was the therapist. And the second one, Adam was just like this hapless, like dude living with a, you know, attractive roommate who was masturbating and happened to be, get seen. That's an interesting, that's the one that where they were like, you can't, you know, you can't, so here's, so this is interesting. I had to re record and cut out some stuff in that because for anybody who hasn't heard it, it starts out with like the, I was referred to like the, me as the hero, like the person telling the story, the narrator, pleasureing himself, thinking, fantasizing alone about his roommate. And then the roommate sees him and then she comes in and stuff happens.

52:49 And so in his world, he's fantasizing about fantasizing about her. And she is walking in real life. She was walking around with like a t-shirt and panties. Many a guy, I believe, is having this fantasy about like, and I'm just going to preface this by saying consent, consent, consent. But in a fantasy world, in one's own personal fantasy world, you're not always consenting. I'm not saying it's, it's R-A-E. I'm just saying in this particular case, he was like, she's teasing me. She's putting, she's wearing this around the house and she, I bet she wants this kind of thing. So like those words are very volatile, they'd be very volatile. And so there is a balance within there. And so anyway, I was kind of, I did, I said that and then I got back like, oh no, she's got a consent.

53:33 I was like, yeah, but it's a fantasy inside a fantasy. But obviously I like want to make everybody happy. So I took that out. And then I guess there was still some stuff left in and I still got flak from like some of the people listening. They're like, oh, Quinn, Quinn allows non-consent now. And I was like, there definitely was not like if you really listened to it, like it didn't have real non-consent in there. Right. But it was, it's interesting. That's kind of what I learned. Like there really has to be this balance. And it's like when do I, for something that's like really dummy, like the get on your fucking needs is like when do I make sure that the listener knows that it's consensual? And so I'm, I don't know if I can just kind of come in and be like, hey, it's Adam, just so you know, here's a, here's a fantasy audio.

54:15 Everyone's, everyone's consenting. Go. Yeah, right. I don't know if I can, it's Claymore. And do that as a disclaimer or if it has to be within the world. One of the, one of the best ways to subtly provide consent in a dominating type audio is to ask that if they know their safe word, that's consent. So you ask the other person, do you know your safe word? Tell me your safe word and then their silence, but that's, that's consent. Good. See, this is, and this is a world that I'm not super familiar with. So it's like this, I'm like, I think maybe what you asked me earlier was like, what have I learned? Yes. And this is probably the biggest thing is like, I don't live in the, in like a BDSM world.

54:56 And so I've had to learn a lot of the stuff. I knew safe word, but I, I think it's important to understand it. I'm not. Just, but that, but yeah, but that's like, in my consent there, right? I think that's a really good point, smart, by just saying like, let's revisit, you know, what you say for it. I need, I need to hear you say it. And then that's silent. So there's consent. Yeah. And saying that a couple times, I think throughout the audio, like if I was doing like, one that was really dummy, I would probably make it. I would just check in. I mean, Smudge is really, I mean, I know we're joking about it, but Smudge truly has experiences in a Dom sub relationship for many years. So she's really kind of like the resident expert with that kind of, well, yeah, sort of. You have, you have, yeah, no, I really, I've had contractual Dom sub relationships and stuff.

55:42 And, you know, I, I think the fact that the VA's like you learn on the job is great for people with, with kinks because it's, surely is opening up your world to new experiences as well. I think so. Yeah, I think so. I think it's been, it's been more interesting to, uh, to bring some of the things that I've like created fake life into my, into my real life. Mm hmm. So it's definitely opened up like a better communication. I'm curious when you were on your, um, on the trip of the guys with the, with the men's group, did you talk about this work that you do, uh, with one person I did? You did, yeah. How did that feel for you to just be sharing that with somebody? Um, there are three people who know what I do.

56:22 Mm hmm. I, I didn't share the site. I didn't share my name or anything like that. Yeah. Um, he thought it was awesome. He's like, yeah, I'm lean, lean into that, you know, and we were just, he's, he's an entrepreneur so he, he went to like, well, how can we capitalize on this? How can you? Yeah. Yeah, that sounds great. Um, yeah. He was very open to it. Um, and, and my other friend is, uh, things, it's, things, it's great too, that I'm exploring So like my reservations were about like my anonymity and what would happen like if my world's collided. Yeah of course. What would that mean for me as a person, like career, my life that kind of stuff? Yeah well everyone has to have their boundaries and it's all choice.

57:03 Being honest I'm a demesexual. So I have to connect with somebody to get turned on by them so it's sometimes the audio world can be slightly harder for me to get into it. If it's an anonymous creator just simply because I don't feel like I know who they are and I know the whole thing about the fantasy that you can make them be whoever you want them to be. But as a as a as a demesexual it's sometimes really difficult to bond sexually with somebody and to get off who I don't know what they look like. To find them see these are words that I don't know what is the demese. So it's literally I need to bond and connect with somebody to be sexually aroused emotionally by them so my connection becomes visual. My connection with somebody is a visual connection. I'm not saying I don't get turned on by sound but I get more turned on by sound if I know who the person is. So like an emotional connection like yes you know yeah is there one you know type of audio or king or trepore etc that you you wouldn't be interested in recording is there something that you just don't know that's not me it's not who I am. Yeah I mean I don't I don't really have homosexual tendencies so I'm not really into dudes but what's interesting is like I I'm very attracted to femininity I found and so like a dude with a dude with a pussy versus like a chick with a dick. So many true. Yeah yeah yeah yeah don't get angry at me. But like I'm more attracted to the femininity than to I'd say the plumbing.

58:31 The plumbing? Yeah I mean I'm very very attracted to the plumbing but like I'm yeah I'm the same. And to be fair most of the three sums that I've partwoken or watched have always been like two guys one girl and it's just two guys with the girl and not with each other. Many many years ago I was dating somebody and we had like an open relationship and we did you know a bunch of three sums and whatever and like sex parties and I found for myself like I wasn't really into the sex parties I don't like being a watch by people who aren't really engaged in the situation. It just was not my thing and three sums are a lot of work you know. If you're trying to make everybody happy it can be a lot of fun but it's a lot of work. So how do you maintain your personal boundaries? Now you're a voice crater and I know you're anonymous but you know with your social now coming on social media how are you looking to present your boundaries and tell people what they are?

59:24 Yeah I mean I will engage with with anyone mostly but I do keep things personal like I've had some people are like oh where do you live? In the world? Yeah so it's like you know that kind of stuff is not of interest to me like I'm interested in how my work affects other people and like letting people know who I am because it's you know it's about it's not about me and there have been I've made a couple posts that like a little bit more about me I did like I made one post that was like a there's traps sort of thing but it felt like I don't know what it was like. I'll send you it smudgy on Instagram's phone wallpaper I got it but uh you know that's probably as as much as I'll ever do. So how do you anticipate? Because I think you mentioned creating some sort of community outside of social media like are you considering like a discord or a patreon or anything like that? I have actually created all of those things I just haven't made them public yet so I created a discord I don't again it's like I have to understand like what to do with it because I'm new to this world so it's like what do I do with the discord? What do I do with the patreon? What do I do? I what? Wait sorry what what do I do? Yeah like I understand like Instagram I understand TikTok to a certain degree but I haven't utilized I mean I use discord with my friends if we're playing like a video game or something. Sure. Like I haven't I haven't utilized it in terms of like being an anonymous figure ahead within this world. And I haven't figured out like what it is that I would like to do like if I just want you know if I want to continue to just make separate

1:00:58 audios you know for subscribers you know because I can I can create you know I all can do four month for Quinn and if people want more I can create more but it's like and what do they want? I can make a a safe for work audio every 10 or out of audios for Quinn. Yeah. I've had people ask me just to like make stuff to like fall asleep too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're talking heavily about our communities that we're in. Okay so what's the support like within the VA community within the Quinn community or the audio-arotic community for you? I don't I'm not really part of the community yet. You know I have I actually haven't talked to any another creator reached out to me and I spent because they had written something and asked me to be part of it. Quinn recently a month ago reached out because they have something coming out. It will be the first time that I will record somebody else's material. Oh yeah nice. And so that will be that'll be interesting. I've had several writers reach out to me and they all have been very very nice and a couple of sent me scripts but it's like I don't know if I'm ever gonna do that. I mean I might at some point you know because it's like having to come up with stuff all the time and it will be fun to like maybe do one every once in a while but it's like and I appreciate them reaching out but I for right now I just kind of make up my own stuff as far as like the community of like creators I really haven't engaged too much with other Quinn creators so yeah. Well you're pretty new on the scene and I just I'm smudged you probably already thought of this but don't you think he and Orcas would get along so well.

1:02:17 Oh my god go well so well. But just the way you speak and like your your perspectives on life and the way you think the feminine and masculine energy is like you and Orcas would hit it off. What was the name? Orcas Auditori. He's not for his growl's on Quinn and being one hell of a dumb. Oh yeah. Well that I mean that could learn. I'm looking forward to completing your trip in time you will call me master. God that's the sexiest thing any man has ever said. Open to learning right? There's our audiogram right there for this episode. I'm a man and I'm open to learning done. But yeah you wouldn't you and Orcas are kindred spirits I can see it totally. I've already picked in them together in my head but it's settled down.

1:03:04 There's our threesome. These are guests to be professional. Well Adam you're thinking of not this gentleman. Come back to Earth smudge. Peahole. Peahole. Peahole. It's never question that we haven't asked you that you would have wanted to have been asked during this chat. Not you know I think because I sent like a little thing and about like what we could talk about I think we we covered it was really important to me to talk about like when we kind of got into the meat of things that that stuff was really important I wanted to cover but no I don't think there's nothing comes to mind. What you're saying is we were perfect. That's what I heard. You were perfect there's always room for improvement but yes. Or just with you. Would you say we were good girls? I would say you were a very good girl.

1:03:47 Oh thank you that was so unprompted. I'm washing everything right now. I'm gonna clip out smudge asking for that. Totally. Yes. Oh the magic I can work. Oh so actually though one final kind of official question and you you touched upon it but I'd be curious to hear like just your answer to it. How would you define sexual freedom? I would say sexual freedom is the ability to not feel shame for having any desire that you have. That is legal. I would put that caveat on it obviously. To not repress because of things that you were taught to not repress because of how you think other people judge you. To me like the most hypocritical people in the world are the ones who currently have control over the government in the US especially when it comes it's being pushed through with like this guise of Christianity. Christianity at heart gonna get into this but like Christianity at heart can be is a very beautiful religion. But it has been hijacked by this hypocritical patriarchal dominantly white male bullshit. And you know when I listen to I mean of course I'm like obviously I'm from the US. When I listen to Mike Johnson this fucking puppet you can just tell when people are repressed.

1:05:04 Yeah. You can tell something that's going on in this dude and it's scary. This like Christian repression is dogma and it doesn't you know I'm not knocking Christianity. I just want to make sure people know that like I do not there is there are beautiful things in all religions but I think people understand I think your listeners understand they're sparring up to understand like what is happening right now and what is what has happened a lot is this repression of sexuality as like a sin that you're born into this and you have to fix yourself. And we've sort of allowed it you know because because we don't talk about this stuff you know because we're not in normal places. You know as soon as people start and this is like an American thing just to be uncomfortable talking about sex like you go to like France or someplace they'll talk about it but that has to do with like again it's like you know don't show a naked body because that's it starts with that it's like don't show anybody because that's wrong yeah we can't look at that you know it goes it starts in there and it starts to move throughout all of the all of the ways that we're being sort of not control but like manipulated into believing. Well he's coercive isn't it is coercive control is it?

1:06:06 Yeah religion is it can be a beautiful thing and there are thousands of religions and and they're very beautiful until they start to persecute people for you know their minds. Yeah exactly and usually it's it's because the person who's doing the prosecute persecuting are repressing themselves. Yes and they're taking it out on the other people because they're jealous and they feel shame you know and I will bet you a hundred dollars that Mike Johnson is not walking the street line. Is that 100 dollars on the exchange right? Because that's only about 72 pounds. That's true. And you would dollar just to clarify there is nothing wrong with like I'm saying you know not accusing him I'm just saying he's repressing something and the the thing that he's probably repressing is something that he should and would be beautiful if he were to embrace.

1:06:49 Most religions are persecution of women they are to put to stop us from growing from developing from experiencing from learning from having power, having any type of power whatsoever so you know gonna keep us in our place. I mean it's like where did confession come from like confession probably came or just it's like it's information it's like you have to you have to and again not knocking religion if you if you're a Christian or are believing it's fully support you but it's like come to this place come to this place where you can't necessarily prove that we're you can't prove that we're going to tell you you're gonna go to hell so you have to behave in a right way and also you have to tell the head person the priest wherever all of your sins so then the church has all the information on you and there's everything that's going on and they can control you you know that's you know there are a lot of people who get a lot out of out of their church and out of religion and out of confession and all that kind of stuff but I think at a fundamental level it's about control and it's about information control. And that messes with you as you grow up. Of course because it's you know if you if you remove yourself from that you know like the human experience is about having feelings. The human experience is about trying to figure out what those feelings mean and where you where you fit in to your life you know and I think when you're in touch with those feelings whether you're a man or a woman or whatever you can live in a more honest and true light for yourself and that usually manifests in being like a better person like in society. It takes a lot of undoing and learning and that's what that's the work that a lot of people don't want to do

1:08:24 and so they'll hide under the guise of religion to make their behavior okay rather than taking a look at themselves as to why they're thinking and behaving the way they do and do I need to do something with this it's like I don't want to work on myself so I'm going to make you wrong so I can be right and um well and that's why at least for men I think like they really need strong mentors who can show them that it's okay to do that. Bring it back just a little bit. Maybe they just need to get queen memberships maybe that's it right I mean I will say it's been unbelievably refreshing when we speak to creators a very strong common thread between the male creators that we talk to is a high level of emotional intelligence. Yes. A strong respect for women. Yeah.

1:09:11 Many of them were raised around predominantly women. That really has been such a theme that I'm like there is hope there are a lot of men out there who have a fucking clue. Right. About you know can see beyond the end of their own nose. This is where we would normally sign off and say goodbye but Adam contacted us and wanted to return to the quincar studio and carry on with a conversation so here's part two. We need to find. So what you got for us man you wanted to update us on some stuff we're on the edge of our seats. I just I just thought of you guys to ask how everybody's doing and was your holiday okay. Oh thanks. What's your holidays. They were they were good actually. I was I had been down visiting some family during Thanksgiving so I took I tend to get a little cocoonish during the winter my birthday is between Christmas and New Year's and so no one ever decorated my locker because we were all at school. Oh my gosh. I tend to I tend to get like a little cocoon so I went away a faraway land not not too far away just into the night. Far away never never land. And yeah was worth some snow and just got away and it was just nice it was really nice kind of I had I hadn't looked at my phone for over a week so I had no idea what was going on in the news.

1:10:38 Oh week. That's pretty amazing break. Wow that's so weird. Were you in a cabin with a crackling fire in a dog laying in front of it. There's a gas in audio. I mean yes. That's a hallmark movie. It was there was a crackling fire there was a dog there was a cat I brought my cat as well which might have been a mistake. I love that and there was it was a nice house it was my buddy's place. Nice. There's a little waterfall outside and river so it was everything you wanted to be and it's not quite a bit so it was nice. Well I'm not going to tell you what my holidays were like because that was shit and compared to that. Yes. Happy belated birthday by the way. Thank you very much. Yes happy belated. You do not look a day over 42.

1:11:20 That's a good that's a safe number. I thought it was a safe safe number. Yeah that's a safe number. I appreciate that. Just start getting the sweats and having a panic going oh I need my phone. Well that's why I actually did um just like for the Quinn world like that's it had been my goal to do like an aftercare like a non it was still kind of sexual because I was mentioned so but intimate sort of thing not like you know Santa Fe hanging people or something like um my milk and cookies come and say I'm all out all right. We love the bits of the cake. And so it felt it felt right to do what the last audio I do which was the aftercare and that just it felt it felt good to do that and I did like I know we had scheduled this prior but when I did the aftercare it occurred to me and I thought this was important to mention especially because what we were talking about our other stuff we were kind of getting into the weeds about just um communication and how a routica can help people not just you know get them off but like actually help them and it occurred to me through doing that and just sort of some other conversations that I was having in my life when I had thought about aftercare and when it's been talked about you know either through Quinn or just through you know people in general it's often almost primarily associated with the female needing aftercare and the male has to give the aftercare and it's almost like okay it's this thing that I have to do or you know the dominant partner has to do this for that person it doesn't get talked about as much that the giving of the

1:12:53 aftercare is as much as important for let's say me if I am in a dominant role to also come back to neutral and to also balance what has just happened so like as an example like if you let's pretend we're talking about audios but if there's like a very dominant audio and the listener isn't a submissive place if you love that person like you know if you're in a relationship and you have this nice dynamic where you can be dominant or submissive at least for me putting on that character being you know degrading someone verbally or physically uh even inflicting pain in some way you can get off to that and super hot but when you come back for the other person obviously it can be very traumatic and stir up a lot of adrenaline and they need you know to be held and talk to but for the person who's doing that they get as much out of the aftercare as the other person receiving the aftercare because it gives them a chance to come back and remind themselves and can reconnect with that person and to be intimate in a loving way and to say like I'm here for you and everything we just went through is totally fine and it was wonderful to go through that but we've you know our chemicals have exploded and signed us and now we're sort of coming back to neutral and the ability to hold someone in a place of of comfort and safety regulates both partners I think or all three or whatever you're doing to the extent where like people can come back to neutral and I just think it doesn't get talked enough about for men and how much they need aftercare or to provide the aftercare or it's

1:14:24 you know you're creating aftercare you're not just providing but you're creating aftercare or your partner in which you as the the male or the dominant partner in that situation can also be healed and come back to neutral or if you know if you have a dynamic where like say I was being submissive and my partner is being dominant the act of giving also healed Smudge at maybe you can speak to this because you've been open about like how you are in your world I imagine that it takes a lot to either put yourself in a position of like utter submission or utter dominance and like that's not how you live your life normally when you're necessarily walking through the grocery store or whatever it's a it's a very private sort of thing and and that's why sex is beautiful because we go to these places that are so intimate within ourselves to touch those like very important intimate places and they can be connected to either traumas or things that might set us off emotionally and then to come back and remind us that we're safe you know for me to say like be incredibly you know if you slapping somebody or if you're calling the names or degrading them to a person especially if you love them then to come back and be like you know we move through this it was wonderful but like this is who we are as a partner yeah I completely agree I think that the importance of pre-seen care and post-seen care are two of the most important parts of a dominant and submissive dynamic the pre-care means that you're creating the environment where the safe environment where

1:15:55 it's going to happen and then the after care for me was more about coming back down to some form of normality and resonance and grounding and back to who you are definitely wouldn't have interacted with any DOM who didn't provide both pre-care and after care so can I ask you a question how do you if it's not a normal partner let's say it's a new partner or some you're starting to date somebody you're getting into like something what kind of communication do you have with them to know that that after care is coming and do you ever have to like educate them on what how to do it I feel somebody that's not quite as experienced in the dominant dynamic there can be some teachings however we're talking months and so that that whole getting to know each other is would that be encompassed in the pre-care yeah so you know I would never enter into a dominant submissive dynamic with anybody who I haven't known for several months because you have to be compatible with them I'm not talking about I can go to a sex club and I can put myself on a cross or a rack and be dominated easy no problem done it not a problem but that doesn't give you that connection that's not a dynamic that's a bit of roleplay for a couple of hours and roleplay is completely different to dominant submissive dynamics so is there a is there a difference between after care in roleplay versus that what you're talking about was sort of living the experience

1:17:29 yeah I've had after care in both so after care in roleplay just normally consists of giggling grabbing a cup of coffee some water maybe having a shower together then fucking after care from a scene which normally lasts can last for several hours or a couple of days that requires some intense level after care which is nurturing but you would only know how to after care a partner that you're within that sort of dynamic if you've got to know them first which is why it's important to get to know them they might not want touch afterwards I don't want to be held afterwards I don't want touch afterwards I want to go and have a shower and I want to lay down in a room on my own and go to sleep for a few hours and then the after care starts for me but for some of you would only know that if they ask me the questions so not everybody wants a cuddle not everybody wants to be stroked or held or told what a great job they've done or you know well thank you for coming to the Adam Cray's podcast I appreciate your nice thanks thank you for having us I genuinely felt like I was being interviewed for like an bdsm podcast but I feel like you all have much more experience than I do so like you know maybe not life experience with jose joseph but joseph is just a baby, he's just a vanilla baby I've been with the same guy for 19 years yeah well but it's still I mean like I'm sure there's things you know not to pry into your relationship but I'm sure there's things to explore and things you can learn you know

1:19:02 well even speaking of after care that I'm kind of because we actually did in one of our previous episodes we did a segment on after care and until we did that segment I've been doing after care the same way for 19 years never knew there were so many different types in that like much that it can look so different for everybody and you know I used to feel a little bit bad because sometimes you know you have a quickie hey you got to get to work high five that would be you know our quick after care and I remember when we started talking about it I was like oh my god is that bad like am I not doing it right you know listening to Quinn audio is you hear the way after care is presented a lot of the times and then when we had that segment on it it's like no it can look so different for so many people like smudge said smudge wants with certain scenarios wants to go into a room and go to sleep and then have the after care starts is so different so that's kind of what I've learned about it that just looks so different for everybody and asking also you know I you know asking like if that's okay like is is the high five good is the high five okay and then I text you in 20 minutes and just let you know I love you just to remind you that like here right you know whatever it is the whole thing is getting to know yourself and it's like if you don't know yourself well enough to even know what you need like that's a process that you have to go through regardless you know to figure it out like if you're open enough to like do that self discovery with yourself and that's why like for me doing like the Quinn work or the erotic audio is like I've learned a tremendous amount about what I need for myself just by making audios and by having fans or listeners like say something back to me and being like oh I never thought about that it's a it's an interesting

1:20:37 process of learning which is also why like I just I think sex gets better with age because you have a chance to realize what's going on because of the first you're just you're fumbling around you know what's going on you don't know what you need you feel embarrassed you feel intimidated you know you you're trying to replicate what you see in videos or whatever yeah that's never you know it's never rooted who you are really yeah no I think that's part of the big thing with with erotic audio right then we've said since the beginning and what you were saying earlier Adam is how much learning is done doesn't matter your age doesn't matter your orientation doesn't matter anything the number of people have spoken to when the things that they've learned about themselves at 20 40 50 whatever as a result of listening to this work it's like wow first of all didn't even know that was a thing or I kind of like that didn't I thought it was weird I didn't know that other than people did too and so you can learn more about it so then if you know not only can improve your relationships if you're in one but also if you do want to go out and play somewhere you kind of have the language more you know the you know we have a guest that's going to be coming on to talk about her experience with you know kind of dabbling into alternative lifestyles as a result of finding audio orotica she would probably would have never thought at her age that she would be playing with that kind of stuff but um this is what this work does for you it just opens up doors and it's like okay were were you a good communicator in the bedroom from a young age then probably not like in you know not like I I would be as an adult sure I don't think I I was learning what to do when I was

1:22:11 learning by doing it and I was learning by like looking and I certainly was like oh I want to try that by like reading that sort of thing there were you know anal sex for instance like you know there's a there's a process to it and then you know the I have found that you know communicating about it is better you know and like not just jumping into it after some margaritas and fajitas never very specific example that never happened to me um like he does like he does that is gonna hurt tomorrow but you learn your lesson and you uh you learn that it's okay to communicate about that kind of stuff but that's trial and error you know that's that's trial and error and I think when you get into the more like you know uh either dominant or sub or taboo types of stuff when you're first doing that um that can be really exciting but it can be really like I think there's a lot of things that are happening with that because it's like it's like a logical and you're like okay do I really want to have sex with my you know what does this mean for me you know and as an adult I think it's easier to sort out what's going on like for someone who's actually maybe been to therapy or open to like reading about the this psych the sexual psychology of humans versus like someone younger who's just like fuck me daddy or fuck me mommy or whatever because you get into it and you're like so what does this mean for me um why am I turned on by this like that's interesting to me as well um and you you can separate it in the bedroom from like reality but you know where where does it lie for people

1:23:45 and like how far do you want to take it and like why does it make you feel uncomfortable like there there are people in relationships where you might get along really well in some aspects but like in in sexual aspects it might not be balanced and you know you might bring something up or ask someone to call you something or want to do something and that person doesn't feel comfortable with it and you know to know like either why that person doesn't feel comfortable with it or just to to know like that might not ever change um and you're what are you going to do about that and how are you going to then um you know without without like censoring that part of you what are you going to do about that how do you learn about that yeah yeah can I ask you your question do you think there's if you're with a partner you can get everything you want from them sexually I've looked at partner and said even if you called me what I what I need you to call me or say it's not going to hit or they've tried and it hasn't I think there's the compatibility what do you think I think that it is very rare and beautiful when you find someone that you are compatible with in that way that it is uh a gift in a way to find someone like that and it's very very special and it starts with being able to talk about what it is that you're interested in and but and and share the things that turn you on and the things that you want to try that might you might not have done with someone else and what they're interested in and the things that they wanted to try um and then to be able to do it

1:25:18 but I have been in a situation situations let's um where I might have done that with someone but it doesn't hit me the same as with another person that it just fires with and and and and the truth is like some you can almost tell sometimes when somebody's just like phoning it in or it's like it's not their kink but they're they're doing it for you because they might like you or they're they don't want to be embarrassed or whatever but to me like that is the the subconscious sort of thing that you're like well I know you're doing it and it might turn me on or I know I'm doing it for you and I might turn you on but like it's not it you know I think that there are relationships that will never have that between the the two partners um not to say like you can't still have sex and and make love or whatever but like you might not get that thing that you're looking for but there are on rare occasions two people who who just vibe perfectly and it's a really really special thing and you know when it's there you know when it's there because it's just like you you don't even have to say it like you can just look at that person and you can just get that vibe because you know that they are on the same level as you it's not like they're giving it to you because they want to please you it's because they're getting as much out of it as you're getting out of it and that's a special sort of thing.

1:26:41 I think that's the other thing that's happening with like the uprising of audio-rotic is that a lot of people in established relationships are figuring out how incompatible they might be with their partner in that way like they're learning about things that they like things that they want to try they're speaking to their partner and the partner's like not really into it and then there's the struggle of like well what do I do now do I just suppress this part of me and just deny it or do you know I think I think there's a lot of conversations happening in relationships at least in the communities we're in where they're trying to figure out how to navigate that. Yeah and not just relationships but probably in therapy rooms too. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I think a lot of these communities have therapy rooms you know. Totally. True. I think it's really powerful and also what I've have found is like it extends beyond the bedroom like almost always when there's someone that I really connect with in a sexual way we also share other we might share the same sense of humor for instance or we might you know we might communicate just better. What audio would you like to do next if you could do anything? Well I can do any audio next that's that's that's that's that's oh yeah you're right that's the beauty. I'm not being I'm not being dictated it the problem is that it's so open I'm trying to figure out like where I want to go. Yeah I haven't I haven't figured out exactly I have like a list of things that I'm looking to do there are definitely some like part 2s and part 3s that I want to do. I have been telling my like the people who follow me on social that I have a

1:28:14 patreon coming so that's something I'm working on so I'm getting that up like hopefully within next week or so. Wow. On that patreon will there be more photos like the ones you've recently posted? My goodness man. For fuck's sake man. I have a friend that is a very good photographer and and they were like hey let me because I like I'm a photographer as well and they were like let me take some pictures of you like this like that's good lighting they were hanging out and I was showing them my booth and they were like me take some pictures so I took some and they're like you should post this because there are very few people who know what I do. Oh right. To answer your question yeah I think I think I will. What are you? I know. I need to budget now. I haven't done the market research to know like what what I should be charging. Okay. I do think that there will be like safe work stuff like maybe some like you know go to sleep kind of stuff because like yeah. Yeah. Well as far as the next audio I don't know maybe it'll be interesting if it was about podcasters. And done. So to change. I mean not that you probably listened although you probably should have but our one-year anniversary episode when we had creators sending questions for us. Your pal Orcas the fucker. You know he did. He asked each of us to make the sounds of a fake orgasm and which one was best he'd put in an audio. Nice. Yeah nice. I'm sorry. I he better be putting

1:29:45 all three in it. Maybe like the orcas orgy. Because for fuck sake we all did it. I'm gonna say you can't that would be not cool to be like this one's the best because right. Is it every orgasm the best like for yourself. Good man Adam. Good man. But also can we just also say when normal people come it's very much not migroian. I mean the premise the premise is there. That's a dessert. Yeah. But we all did it you know but it's not like yeah I'm not that dainty. And the same thing you know I have people who who believe that every time I do it in my booth I'm actually doing it and to believe that is one thing and I don't want to take that away. Yeah and I found out recently there's no actual two fairy but stop moving in my whole life. You know the nature of the audio is that you want to hear it. So like in real life if I were to keep a sound in and actually have an orgasm I'm in myself I'm in my head right I'm enjoying what's going on in here I'm not thinking about like verbalizing this you know and if I'm making a sound it's because I'm just making a sound I'm not like who are you know whatever I'm doing. Oh my god that was fucking Santa. That's not the same thing.

1:30:56 I mean yeah definitely that I think is a trend at the moment with people just making sounds just you know moaning moaning. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh stop. Oh come on. Just moaning it's just funny. Yeah. I don't know. I don't like it that's it. Is that good? Is that good? Is that what you want? Very good. Yes. Alright that makes it easier for me to not have to think it's great. Yeah. It's quite a big. I mean if you look at yeah it's just something that's kind of going right now but yeah it's been um a couple creators that and the plays are astronomical. Really? And it's just moaning and breathing. One is one is like the breathing is important.

1:31:37 One is like 11 or 12 minutes the other one's like 13 minutes the plays. I think I know what my next time is. Yeah. But no. You probably need to just show us you know like practice just a little bit. It's much. Oh man. Oh my god. Yep. Yep. Yep. Done. I'm going to put my head in the toilet right now. I gotta go swap myself out. I'm gonna be out of it.

1:32:17 I'm a master mate. That was amazing and yes. Yep. So that's yep. I mean I'm sitting on the fence. You love to sit on the fence. I'm gonna have to have a few more examples. Yeah. For science. For science. Practice makes perfect and we have a voice voice note option on our Queen cast website. Oh that's great. Queen cast.com. Got to leave us a voice mail. He's a voice note. See if you can moan any better than Adam. Oh my god. Imagine. So what are you most excited about in 2026 in your erotic audio career? I'm excited about engaging more with my fans and growing the Adam Craves brand.

1:33:00 No. No. That's really what it is. Making some audios and having fun and then realizing that there is a world a universe out there. Yeah. And I'm very lucky to have been welcomed into it and to continue to engage and educate myself and educate my fans and learn and see how far I can take it. I would like to do a couple like what's a call one two people or collaborate. Not fucking. But yeah fucking. Collaborations spread about. Yeah. I would like to do like I have an idea for a collaboration. Maybe with another like a female. I am free. Smudge. We're having auditions next week so you can send us.

1:33:41 What call you? Don't call us. I feel so happy. Yeah. Something people have said like oh you should try to do collaborations and I you know I I need to figure out what that means for me and like what how that works into my to my art and you know what I can do but I think that would be interesting to explore. Mm-hmm. And have you come up with a nine for your fan by shit? Well I thought they were the Cravers but then somebody said Craves babes or I mean I don't know they're just I think my fan base needs to come up with a name for the fan base. Yes. Yes. I'm not in charge of that. That's not my thing. I think it could be good. Cravelings or... Cravelings. That's what I would like to do. Adams, Eves and Steve's covers by this. By the way, what? Eves and Steve's. Can you just go with Cravers please?

1:34:24 That's just that's it's good. It's clean. It makes sense. Makes perfect sense. I don't I think that sort of thing is something that organically happens with Yes and the listeners. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We can we can put a little start that conversation. Yeah. Oh my god. Does what you know just see what people say? Like, "Where do you think this thing should be called?" And then we can inform you of what has been decided. That sounds great. I'm here for it. Which I'm very excited to see what happens now. I know. But it's our Patreon. I'm very excited about your Patreon because having seen the first traps and knowing that you want to dip into the SFW stuff as well which is big at the moment.

1:35:08 Nice sleep aids and you can sing and you can breathe. Fucking hell. And you can moan. Oh, you're in good moan. Yeah. I can moan. I can breathe. I can sing. Oh, it's the breathy pants. Tick tick tick. That's exactly right. I already got to go get myself sorted. Whatever. I just have to get myself off. How do you leave? We'll have a group sorting. Is that what? Again. I don't be willing to do that. You did that just before I came on. Oh. Is there anything more you would like to let us know about Adam Craves and David's 26? Secrets you'd like to spill and he cheeses you'd like to give. Come on.

1:35:50 Um, any teases any secret? I feel like the secrets will come as they come. I feel like there's maybe there are some. Maybe I'm just, maybe they're right now. I'm just pretending they're right. I think that we definitely have some part 2s and part 3s to look forward to. Okay. Yeah, so there will be some parts 2s and 3s. They're the Adam verse that I started with. Yeah. We'll probably have some additions to it. The confession. Confession. I mean, it's not one of my personal favorites. Neil. Neil. Just Neil.

1:36:31 What's interesting about it is because I improv everything. It's, it's, it's, it's, it starts out as um, it starts out as an idea, you know, and you know, I'll look up a couple of words that I need to use, but I'm always surprised at what it becomes. And so that's, it's fun for me to create as it is for someone to listen to. Um, that's, so you like that rapper, that guy who just gets given three words randomly and then he comes up with this rap. So we could give you three words randomly. You could just come up with an audio. So what is saying? Actually, and I might do that because I mean, if you're, if I, if I have, I can do four a month, you know, times 12. So that's what 48. So like I have 48 audios to come up with.

1:37:12 Quinn this year. Well, I've done one already. So 47. So yeah, I have three ideas right now. Well, you put that out to your fan base. Give me some words. I will create the order. Give me some tags. That's, that, that's a great idea. Yeah, that is. I do ask them at one point, like give me some ideas and they gave me some great ideas. And some, some of them are interesting. But, oh, I can only think of the right. The, yeah, there's some that I think can definitely work and I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna like get into and I, you know, I went through to see like which, what tags did really well. And like which ones didn't. And I have people who are like in the, in the world who are like, you need to really do this more. You need to do this more. Nice. And I'm like, you know, it's very helpful and I'll, I take opinions and I put them in there.

1:37:57 Part of me is like, I'll do what I want to do. Do you also like, yeah, I'm the fucking dumb bitch. Which was one of the words that people really want to hear. But, you know, it's also like, you know, it's, it's a business and it's, you know, it's art/business. And so we have to figure out like what works for the listener and what works for the algorithm and, and, and grow from there. Yeah. So you're going to do 46 other ones and a morning one, correct? 45 morning and then one will have worse. I love it. Perfect. Maybe I'll just have just the morning on that page right? Maybe I'll have one morning and I'm more on the morning page.

1:38:38 Thanks Adam for coming on chat with us. That's a good idea. Yeah. Oh, I can't wait to, I'm excited for your Patreon. So don't keep us waiting too long. Don't adjust on the fucking Patreon. Get it going. I'm hoping to have it up by the end of January maybe. Oh, before the end of January. Under promise, love to over deliver. I'm hoping to have it by the end of January. Sounds great. Yeah. Sounds so much. So should you, are you going to do like a tease it though? Are you going to like do like a social media stuff? Like, like something's coming. Okay, awesome. Yeah, something's coming. Don't know it. But it soon catch the moon. One hand, I'm trying to do musical theater. Yes, I will definitely be teasing it. I would definitely be teasing it and different. And the only way that Adam craze can tease.

1:39:19 Oh my god. Patreon musical audio. Oh my god. Oh, don't abs and hands. Okay, yep. Hands on bell buckle. God, don't do that. Not when, not maybe like half a zipper down. Not during the working day. Not during a working day. No, the jingle of the bell. The front of ours calls that. Come, come, come, come. The Vars calls that the dinner bell. Dinner bell. She's like, oh, she's like, here's a dinner bell. That's his belt. Yeah, part of that, that's fun. Like that kind of stuff is fun for me. Like to do that kind of creativity. And like, you know, because I, the pictures I'd take and like, you know, I have a nice camera and we took nice pictures.

1:39:59 And then I was, you know, I added that stuff to make it look nice and all that kind of stuff. So that is fun for me. All the negatives floating around anyway. Negative. You're generous. We're not any negatives anymore, but there were many shots taken. And maybe there will be more when we, you know, when I decide there will be more. That's good stuff of Patreon, like behind the scenes. Behind the scenes of bloopers, big on pages. Behind the scenes of bloopers. Lots of bloopers going on too. So that's, yeah. I'm love that. Okay, I can't wait. I was, I will sort my budget now. Oh my gosh, thank you Adam. Thank you Adam. I apologize for what this has deteriorated because of this much. It's half as 10 at 9. But it's 10 30 at night.

1:40:39 This is my fairytime. Oh wow. My fairytime. Thank you for staying up. And when I listened to a podcast, I listened to Quinn Gast. Not even prompted. Not even prompted. Adam is king. Good boy. That's good. Excellent. Thanks, man. I appreciate, uh, I appreciate y'all coming back and doing this. This is great. You come back and travel the anytime. Please anytime. Yeah, y'all come back now. You hear? Yeah, y'all. Just the worst American accent. It was terrible. Terrible. It's been a pleasure, Adam, as always. Yes. Yeah, come back anytime. So there was Adam Craves. Wow. He was just so like, don't know what to expect.

1:41:20 We didn't know what to expect because we didn't really expect you to be out with him. But that guy he is like, um, so in touch with women right now in the world and the world itself. Mm-hmm. Oh my god. I mean, just without his audio is alone. That was a fucking proper turn on. Yeah. Well, amazing. And I love how he went also from talking about, uh, like, what women kind of get out of this space and also talking about how he wants men to be more in touch with their emotions and things like that. I love, you know, I love, you know, perspective from him as well. Yeah. I mean, he's just another one after the conversation. I'm like, I have hope for the future because there really are men out there who are so awake. Yeah.

1:42:00 Um, what a great way to say it. And honest and honest and just willing to share and speak openly and be vulnerable. Because like we said, we started this going, we don't know much about this guy at all. Oh, and, uh, now it's like, shit, I feel like I genuinely do feel like I know him. So, yeah. Yeah. For now. Yep. Another one in the bag, ladies. Another one in the bag. Another one in the bag. So thank you so much, Adam, for coming to join us here in Quinn Cast Studios. It was so fun. Oh, so good to talk with you. Clitisans, you know the deal. Let us know what you thought of the episode. Your feedback really matters to us. So you can email us at Quinn Cast podcast at gmail.com or you can comment on Spotify, um, rate us, share with your friends, et cetera.

1:42:42 Uh, we would love to hear any topic ideas you have or anything, any of the feedback you'd like to give us. So we'll be back soon with another fantastic episode if we do say so ourselves. But for now, this has been Casah, your voice matters. This has been Jules. Go put those lips to good use. And this has been Smudge. Keep one king. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO]

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