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Oct. 7, 2026

S4 E59 - Dirty Dictionary Corner: Bitch

S4 E59 - Dirty Dictionary Corner: Bitch
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Clitizens, we’re giving the word ‘bitch’ an entire episode because this particular word needs more than a quick look in the dictionary. This month, Dirty Dictionary Corner comes with a QuinnClass (ha) history lesson as we find out how this word became so versatile. And of course, we have plenty to say about hearing it in audio erotica. The incredible Peaches also weighs in on this word during his segment ‘Peachin’ it Real.’


🔥 IN THIS EPISODE

  • Welcome to QuinnClass! A QC history lesson on the word ‘bitch’, including its connection to the suffragettes
  • The word’s many meanings and its place in pop culture, from music and movies to literature
  • Can ‘bitch’ be reclaimed? Our thoughts on using it ourselves and hearing it from someone else.
  • How we feel about the word ‘bitch’ in audio erotica, with specific examples of what works for us and what doesn’t.
  • Clips from Quinn VA’s LonelyFans, SweetLover, and Billie give us plenty to discuss!
  • Peaches weighs in on his thoughts on this word in his ‘Peachin’ it Real’ segment

🍑 ‘PEACHIN’ IT REAL’ WITH PEACHESPeaches shares his own thoughts on the word ‘bitch’ and whether it is a word he enjoys hearing or using. He also takes the conversation into the audio erotica space, giving his thoughts on using this word in audios. There is also a particular movie scene that still makes him chuckle that has this word in it….

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🎵’Peachin’ It Real’ written and performed by: Jingle Crafters


Voice actors mentioned in the ‘bitch’ compilation: Tom York, Dolph, Rina, Cera, Behold the Beauty, Zach Cowman, WkdFaerie, Atlas, RawVintage

[Dirty Dictionary Corner] [Get Away From Her You Bitch!] [Like a Bitch In Heat] [ No Fucks To Give] [ He Calls Your C a B!] [Elizabeth Taylor] [Word Thingy]


🎙 WHO’S TALKING
Hosts: Kazza, Jules, and Smudge
Peachin It Real Segment: Peaches


Episode Edited By: Kazza


💬 THE BIG TAKEAWAY
We don’t all feel the same way about being called a bitch, or using that word in general. Reclaiming it can feel empowering, but you don’t need to embrace it just because someone else does. And in audio erotica, the same word can be a turn-on for some and a turn-off for others.


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This is Jules. And this is Smudge.

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So Jules, who do we have lined up next to

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interview for the chance to be included in this new

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book of words thingy?

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We decided to name it Dictionary. It has more of

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a floaty within book of words thingy.

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Next.

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Name?

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Bitch.

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Occupation?

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Insult, compliment, term of endearment, occasionally a warning.

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Previous experience?

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Centuries of putting outspoken women in their place.

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Any special skills?

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I can completely change meaning depending on who says me

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and how much attitude they use. Impressive.

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Anything else?

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Yes, I am also a female dog.

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You're hired.

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Today we're examining the complicated career of one of history's

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hardest working words.

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Been a bitch to me all day i'm not being

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a bitch you are a bitch.

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Funniest bitch i know if you're one of those bossy

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bitches i i don't care go on call me a

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bitch again you come hungry bitch i don't know what

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your bitch is and i keep mine on a leash

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oh that bitch i fucking knew it i am your

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little bitch is this bitch.

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In heat or what panting like a bitch in heat

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You naughty little bitch.

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Myself is a horny little bitch sometimes. Fucking bitch. I'm

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not trying to be a bitch. You acted like a

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fucking bitch. Capitalism is a bitch.

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Thank God for horny little bitches everywhere.

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So, um, does anybody know what we're talking about today?

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Hmm.

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I'm not sure I can quite put my finger on it.

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Subtle hints, weren't they?

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Yeah.

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Not too obvious.

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Is this like a... Is this like a big extended

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Dirty Dictionary corner or something? Are we talking about bitch?

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It might be.

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Ding, ding, ding.

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Yes, we have unearthed, dug up from the time capsule,

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the segment Dirty Dictionary corner, which I have missed.

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Me too.

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So much. Me too.

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Yes.

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And we decided to go with what is, I think...

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Way more controversial a word in audio erotica than a

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lot of other words. So I think bitch is not

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well used or versed by a lot of VAs because

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of the derogatory nature to women, although and whore is

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the same, but we can cover that off. On another

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Dirty Dick Cherry Corner.

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That's for another time.

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But you probably will. That's another compilation. Oh, my God. Really?

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I have to put another compilation together?

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Oh, poor Smudgy.

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Oh, no, Smudgy.

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So, yeah, so we did some research, obviously, did we not?

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Yes, we did.

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On the word bitch.

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And, wow, who knew?

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It's had quite a journey.

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Hasn't it?

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It's had a long journey.

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When it first appeared, or allegedly first appeared.

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Mm-hmm.

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The old English word for a female dog, it stemmed from,

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which is, I have no idea how to say this.

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It's B-I-C-C-E.

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So I'm going to say beachy.

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Or bitey or bitchy. I don't know. Beachy maybe?

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Well, yeah, you're right. B-I-C-C-E. Before the 12th century, bitchy

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simply meant a female dog, which is how I first

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knew it. Yeah.

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You called someone a bitch in 1150?

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Exactly.

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You were talking about their pet. In 1150, you were

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talking about a female dog. You were talking about their pet.

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Wow.

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Apparently there was like a false origin story that I

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went deep dark. Deep doived.

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Doived?

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Just made up a word. Deep doived.

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Deep doived. Added to the dictionary.

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There was a claim that the word bitch came from

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a Greek goddess or began as like an empowering title thing.

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But no reliable linguistic evidence is around. So fuck Greek goddess.

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Disproven.

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Exactly. Bye, bitch. Bye, bitch.

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Yeah.

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How about you, Jules? Um, well, first of all, I

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don't have any history on bitch, but I do want

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to just bring up really quick because I love the

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word bitch. Let me just, I'm just going to put

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it out there. I love it because kind of like

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we said in the opening, it has, it reminds me

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of the word fuck because like you said, we said

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in the opening skit, the scenario and the tone changes

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everything so much. So you're a bitch. It's an insult. Bitch, please.

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It's a dismissal of someone. She's, you guys are my bitches.

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It's excitement. You know, or a bad bitch. It's a compliment.

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If you're a boss bitch, it's power and status. So

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how did everything go from just female dog to all

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of a sudden all of these meanings?

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All of these meanings.

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With everything. Yeah.

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Right.

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Yes. Men.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, men. Because my research tells me that things got

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spicy around the 1400s.

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Okay.

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So the word starts getting applied to women as an insult.

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Specifically implying promiscuity. Yes. So comparing a woman to a

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female dog in heat.

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That's where it came from. So one of the earliest

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recorded uses in this sense is from around 1400 by

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Chaucer's era. It was already doing double duty as a slang.

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So the logic is is zoological that it's female dogs

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and heat attract a lot of male attention. So the

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insult transfers to like a shamelessness onto women. I, the

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only thing I had was the first reference to son

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of a bitch was actually before that.

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So the term son of a bitch first appeared around

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1330 and the expression attack a man threw his mother

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by portraying her as sexually immoral or animal-like. So it

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was originally termed by men to put a slur on

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other men by putting down a woman. But notice as well,

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it's linked to femininity, right? That's what I understood it

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and how I heard it called to me growing up.

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But it was only... applied to men to show weakness

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or subordination or femininity.

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Don't be such a bitch.

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Yeah.

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You're a little bitch.

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It's to put a man down to diminish his masculinity.

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To call him a woman.

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To call him a woman. Yeah.

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Oh my God. You're right. Because you're right. Because when

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you call a woman a bitch, it means, you know,

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you're too aggressive. You're too outspoken. You're too dominant. Yes.

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And then for a man, you're not dominating enough.

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I don't know if we can, I don't know if

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we can add this word to the word thingy. It's

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too complicated. But then like Jewel said before, like then

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there's so many different terms. Like it's not all necessarily

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bad anymore, but it's still like a big insult, of course.

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But then like she said, it's, you know, it changed

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like in the 1950s, the American surfing culture and like

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the hot rod slang, as they called it, flipped the

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word into something positive, like, oh, bitch in. Meaning like

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it's really cool and excellent. So it's awesome. Cool. Same

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root word. Opposite emotional charge. Right. So existing like side

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by side with the insult. So I guess language doesn't

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really care about consistency. So it's just like, yeah, like

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that's no bitchin'. Always.

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You know who is called a bitch a lot are

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the suffragettes. So if any listeners do not know who

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the suffragettes are, they're the women who believed that we

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should be able to freaking vote and went out there and,

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you know, were out there with the signs and they

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were doing hunger strikes and being arrested for these rights.

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And they were being called a bitch by men because

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the men didn't like them speaking out that they wanted

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equal opportunities as them.

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That was a real turning point. So that's like the 1920s.

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So because what was interesting that I read was in

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the 1920s, the use of the word bitch in newspapers

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and literature more than doubled between 1915 and 1930 on

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the heels of the women's suffrage movement. So it's backlash

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to the vote.

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Yeah.

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Newspapers and literature, it doubled, more than doubled, in those

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little 15 years because of the women's suffrage movement.

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Because of the suffrage movement.

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And they were using it in the newspapers and magazines

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and posters, et cetera, to say that if you are

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a bitch, it's going to diminish your the possibility of

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you getting married, having children, you know, they were absolutely

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using it as a way to control and keep women

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in the homes, doing what men need them to be,

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which is out of sight, out of mind, serving them. Wow.

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And they work hard to keep us down. Bitch, please.

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Yeah, we try really hard. And I feel like the

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first time I remember... It was 2008 and it was

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during the Democratic primary between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

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And Tina Fey went on SNL and addressed the people

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as Hillary Clinton. And everybody during that campaign was calling

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her a bitch. And so Tina Fey famously got up

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and said, yeah, I'm a bitch. Bitches get shit done.

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And it became this like big thing. And I remember

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being in college and there were posters on the wall

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of it. Like, yeah, bitches get stuff done. Bitches get

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stuff done. And I remember the first time that I'd

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seen anywhere like, wait a second, someone's taking this word

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and turning it into a little bit of a positive. Like,

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this is this is awesome.

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Yeah, I do remember that, too. There was also a

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time back in the I think it was the 60s. Yeah.

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If it was that. Oh, God, what's her name? Joe.

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Joe Freeman. wrote the bitch manifesto.

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Oh, yes.

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Yes. And that was that was a strong attempt at

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trying to reclaim the word that it was like that

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was like the 60s or 70s, deliberately trying to reclaim it.

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So if an assertive woman got called a bitch. Maybe

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assertiveness isn't the actual crime and wearing the label is

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a way of rejecting the punishment. And so that's when

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the bitch manifesto came to be. So there's been attempts.

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Right.

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But it's, it's, it's not one that is as easily reclaimed.

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I don't think it's a tough one.

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No, I don't. I don't think so. And yeah, I

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think when I was younger, it was definitely a word

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that boys used because they probably heard their dads or,

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you know, older brothers use it.

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Yeah.

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And it was one of those words that I really

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didn't think was a swear word. It didn't, It wasn't

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like fuck.

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Or wanker, you know, being British, wanker.

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It was, I think if I'd have said it, I

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don't remember saying it, but I think it was one

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of those words that I thought if I said it,

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I wouldn't get that much into trouble for using it.

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Oh, okay.

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Because it was quite commonplace in the UK. It was

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all over TV.

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Okay.

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It was very much used.

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Yeah.

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Even in songs. You know, there was a lot of

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songs with it. The Bitches Back, Elton John, you know,

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that type of, there was a lot of songs with

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it in the 80s and early 90s.

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Yeah.

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And I do think it was also, there was a

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lot of the hip hop movement that used it so

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much that it became, it felt like it was part

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of normal vocabulary and you just said it, which probably

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actually happened. It probably helped to reduce the impact of

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that word. Yeah.

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Because you heard it a lot, right?

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Yeah.

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But I do remember being utterly shocked when I watched

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Alien and Ripley said, get away from her, you bitch.

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Get away from her, you bitch.

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A woman saying it to another woman. I think I'd

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always heard men saying it to women. And I think

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Ripley and Alien was the first time that this strong, independent... Fierce.

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Well done, Sigourney Weaver. Fucking idol.

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Fuck yeah.

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You know, that first one was calling another female in

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that tone a bitch.

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I remember hearing they say bitch in one of the

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Harry Potter movies when I was really young and Oh, wow.

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But it's in relation to a dog. But they say

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you're insulting a mother. But they say they're talking about, oh, yeah,

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my dogs aren't as good because if there's something wrong

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with the bitch, there's something wrong with the pup. And

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she was saying, like, if something's wrong with Harry's parents,

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then there must be something wrong with him. And I

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remember hearing that and thinking, I still do. Like, that

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is one of the most horrible insults I could ever see. Like,

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if something's wrong with the pup, I mean, the bitch,

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there's something wrong with their kid.

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Like, whoa. Right.

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Like huge insult. And so I remember hearing that and

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just being like, I don't ever want to say that

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word ever. Again, there's so many meanings for it, you know?

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So many.

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So I'll be honest, I'm too young for Smokey and

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the Bandit. But obviously they censored back in the day

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and still do to this day. But I guess in

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Smokey and the Bandit, They said some, some bitch, like

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not son of a bitch, but some bitch, some bitch.

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And the movie came out and they left it in,

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but everybody was freaking out about it. So they had

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to change it to scum bum when it went on

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network TV.

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Really?

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Yes.

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So a little tidbit that the scum bum became so,

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so famous. I was like a dub being used in

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a movie. that Hot Wheels had a car, the company

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Hot Wheels had the Smokey the Bandit car, and they

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put on the side of the Trans Am scum bum.

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Really?

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I didn't know that. That's funny.

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Oh my God.

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I didn't know that either. And I also didn't know that,

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rest in peace, the amazing Elizabeth Taylor, that her breakout

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role in 1966, who's afraid of Virginia Woolf, she says,

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son of a bitch. And it was this insane, insane,

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like uproar and everything. And it's still, it didn't get censored,

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but two years after it came out, they redid the

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entire movie rating system because of that movie it was

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like one of the big things but it ended up

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making her famous because she was like i'm gonna say

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this it's part of my role i'm gonna do it

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yeah with the story and it just was this huge

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thing in 1966 so that's how well yeah that's how

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long we've been trying.

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To figure out something with it jesus christ.

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Yeah you know and And I do, like Smudgy, you

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said earlier, you feel like it was one of the words,

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like you said, you heard.

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It a lot.

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I feel like over here in the US, it was

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one of the first words they stopped dubbing. Like shit

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and bitch, I feel like they stopped dubbing pretty quickly

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on network TV and things like that. And like you said,

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the radio, like, do you remember Meredith Brooks? Like, I'm

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a bitch, I'm a lover. And that was, that was 97.

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So we've been just saying this, just without censorship for

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a long time so it's common so i agree with

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you smudgy on the meaning of it we say it

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so much that.

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Yeah it's kind of lost it's lost its edge to

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me if somebody called me a bitch if somebody calls

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me a bitch it means zero it has no effect

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on me whatsoever me either yeah.

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Well because because at this point it feels like if

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someone calls me a bitch it says more about them

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than me.

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Yeah it feels yes And I feel also they're scraping

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the bottom of the barrel when they do. When they

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call me that, I feel like saying, oh, was that

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the only word you could think of? That's a good point.

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Good job.

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Yeah, like, oh, I'm sorry your vocabulary is so limited.

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Maybe if you read our upcoming dictionary, you can learn

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some new words.

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The word thingy.

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Yeah, but I do remember, because I love her, Queen Latifah.

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Love her.

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She did a song called Unity, which basically said, you know,

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telling people to stop calling people bitches.

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Yeah, Queen. Yeah.

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Fuck yeah, Queen Latifah.

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Go Queen.

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Nice.

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Yeah. And I was like, you know, I sing it

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in songs, you know, you bitch, you know.

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Yeah.

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Without thinking twice about it. And then when all of

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a sudden you see something and you go, absolutely right, actually,

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that word is, and we should be picking that word

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out as being a bad word.

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Yeah. It's, yeah, the tone in the relationship, like back

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when Hemingway, oh God, called female characters, this might be

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what you were referring to a little bit ago, Smudge,

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Called Female Characters, Bitch Goddesses. Oh, yes. And so then

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he had a falling out with Gertrude Stein and gave

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her a signed book inscribed, a bitch is a bitch

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is a bitch.

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A bitch is a bitch is a bitch.

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It's like, not a pussy is a pussy is a pussy.

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Do you know, I knew I knew that from somewhere

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and I couldn't quite remember.

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Episode one of QuinnCast.

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Pussy is a pussy is a pussy.

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But a bitch is a bitch is a bitch. Yeah.

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And then you do, you roll into like the music,

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like the 1970s, there was a album song titles, Bitches Brew,

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Bitch by the Rolling Stones. The Bitches Back, as we

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talked about.

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Yeah.

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And then, yeah, the 1980s hip hop, Slick Rick, La

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Di Da Di.

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I think what we're saying is it is an absolute

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double standard word, isn't it? so much so much we've

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covered slut on a previous dirty dictionary corner episode clitsons

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if you go back and listen to the episode but

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it's a double standard so certain words are only limited

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to women and technically only limited to men you know

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yeah there are there are certain words but bitch is

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that one that is just the double standard of if

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it's applied to the man it's a it's supposed to

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put them down because it's a negative word.

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Always because it's like a woman yeah because it's a

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woman yeah But yes, you do see women kind of respond.

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Like when I think about in the 2000s when Britney

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Spears was like, it's Britney, bitch. And everyone was like, yeah.

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Oh my God, I forgot about that. So you can

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see the impact that that had. You can see the

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women are like, fuck yeah. That felt like a momentary

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reclamation when women are like, yes, it's Britney, bitch.

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Yes.

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Leave Britney alone.

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But women's obviously still use it on women as a

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negative oh my god yeah oh yeah it's yep do

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you remember and i'm i can laugh about this now

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but do you remember the thing that the stalker woman

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used to call me yes hbic hbic head bitch in

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charge oh.

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My god that's right.

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Yep And so how did that land with you? I mean,

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I know, but truly like head bitch in charge.

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Laughed. Yeah. It was like head bitch in charge. What

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even does that mean? It doesn't mean anything in the

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contents that it was placed.

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Right.

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Especially when it's direct. If a bitch is, if I'm

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called a bitch from a man, it probably has, you know,

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it's not complete war truffle ducks back, but it has

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limited content. But it certainly has no impact on me whatsoever,

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like minus negative impact when it comes from a woman.

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If a woman calls me a bitch, I'm like, your

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problem is?

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Yeah.

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Okay, fine.

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How about you guys? Does bitch have any effect on

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you guys?

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Well, over here, I mean, because I've heard the expression

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head bitch in charge over here. If someone was like, oh,

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what are you, head bitch in charge? My reaction would

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be like, damn straight, I am.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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That's kind of how it is over here where it's like, yeah,

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you're absolutely because it means I'm a powerful badass. It's like, yeah.

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I mean, because we like we talked about there's so

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many like contexts and tones and who it's coming from that.

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And I really and I don't know if this like

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I really it's so annoying because I. I say things like,

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I don't know if this comes with age because when people,

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when I was younger and people were my age, they

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would say that I would like kind of roll my eyes,

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but there is something biological that I swear flips in

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a woman when you hit a certain age, when you

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truly run out of fucks to give. And it is

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incredibly freeing. And so right now I'm trying to think,

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is there an instance where someone could call me a

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bitch where I would be offended? And honestly, I'm, I'm

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struggling to think of one.

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Yeah, I don't, I definitely doesn't. it doesn't feel like

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it has a negative effect on me.

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No, me either. I wonder why that is.

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Is that because we just, we've just heard it.

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See, I don't know because I don't, like I don't

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a hundred percent take it as a compliment now, but

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I almost kind of do depending on the tone. Like

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if somebody's like you sexy bitch, I'll be like, Hey, thanks.

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You know, like I, you know, or you, you know, or,

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Oh my God, you, you did this in five hours

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when it was, i don't know doing 10 like like

470
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you bad bitch i don't know i'd even think if

471
00:23:02.420 --> 00:23:04.829
i was walking down the street and some guy randomly

472
00:23:04.869 --> 00:23:06.609
like called me a bitch i don't think i'd be

473
00:23:06.650 --> 00:23:09.369
like what the fuck did i do i think i

474
00:23:09.430 --> 00:23:12.950
immediately just be like what okay like yeah all right

475
00:23:13.289 --> 00:23:14.730
do you do you i don't know what i did

476
00:23:14.750 --> 00:23:16.990
i didn't do shit i think i'm i'm fucking awesome

477
00:23:17.009 --> 00:23:18.930
because apparently what i did pissed you.

478
00:23:18.910 --> 00:23:22.710
Off yeah yeah i probably think at this stage men

479
00:23:22.779 --> 00:23:25.500
think it has a bigger negative impact on women than

480
00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:26.500
it actually does.

481
00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:31.119
That's a good point. I think you're absolutely right. Yeah,

482
00:23:31.140 --> 00:23:32.579
I think that's it.

483
00:23:32.700 --> 00:23:34.759
Maybe they're running out of words to cool us.

484
00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:38.390
Well, because, hey, cunt is kind of like, no, we'll

485
00:23:38.410 --> 00:23:39.609
reclaim that word.

486
00:23:39.630 --> 00:23:39.869
Whatever.

487
00:23:39.890 --> 00:23:40.230
Yeah.

488
00:23:40.930 --> 00:23:42.049
I think you're right, Smudgy.

489
00:23:42.569 --> 00:23:43.009
I do, too.

490
00:23:43.049 --> 00:23:45.230
I think you're right. I do think they think they're delivering, like,

491
00:23:45.269 --> 00:23:47.650
a really harsh blow, and we're like, and?

492
00:23:48.410 --> 00:23:51.450
Yeah, you do realize, like, we've heard that in all

493
00:23:51.470 --> 00:23:52.039
of our lives.

494
00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:54.500
You do know our entire lives are spent being put

495
00:23:54.539 --> 00:23:55.880
down and diminished and demeaned.

496
00:23:56.849 --> 00:24:01.329
It's like really, I'm bored. But talking about the word

497
00:24:01.410 --> 00:24:05.529
bitch and trying to link it in smoothly and seamlessly

498
00:24:05.549 --> 00:24:12.240
to audio erotica, which I've already failed. The word bitch

499
00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:14.759
used in audio erotica, what do we think about that?

500
00:24:15.380 --> 00:24:16.819
I've got to say my first reaction is I don't

501
00:24:16.839 --> 00:24:17.109
like it.

502
00:24:17.420 --> 00:24:21.880
Okay, I think, okay. A little bit the shock factor, maybe,

503
00:24:21.890 --> 00:24:25.220
a little bit. So the first time I ever heard

504
00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:27.619
it was in an audio called Locked Out that AJ wrote.

505
00:24:28.500 --> 00:24:30.650
And he just says, you know, like, sometimes you act

506
00:24:30.690 --> 00:24:32.730
like a total bitch, but you're super hot. And I

507
00:24:32.750 --> 00:24:35.369
remember being like, whoa, whoa. And I rewound it and

508
00:24:35.390 --> 00:24:37.170
was like, why did I hate this as much as

509
00:24:37.210 --> 00:24:41.019
I thought? And then I realized that during the rest

510
00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:44.099
of the audio, it's talking about the listener, like being

511
00:24:44.180 --> 00:24:46.619
good at their job and like kind of hints at

512
00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:50.119
like the, the speaker being kind of jealous of that

513
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:52.059
a little bit. So I started taking it as like, Oh,

514
00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:54.400
you're jealous of this person. So that's how you're using it.

515
00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:55.910
And I wasn't as offended as I thought, but I

516
00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:58.470
was still super taken aback by it because I had

517
00:24:58.750 --> 00:25:01.509
never heard somebody use it in any context. It's like,

518
00:25:01.529 --> 00:25:04.049
you're a, you know, you're a fucking bitch, you know?

519
00:25:04.089 --> 00:25:06.549
So hearing it like that and kind of leading in

520
00:25:06.609 --> 00:25:09.619
towards like the sexy part of it, I was taken aback,

521
00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:11.759
and I don't hear it in a lot of the

522
00:25:11.819 --> 00:25:15.910
audios I listen to. It's not my favorite, I'll be honest.

523
00:25:15.950 --> 00:25:18.240
It's not my favorite, but I don't get offended by it.

524
00:25:19.190 --> 00:25:21.490
It depends on the audio, but sometimes if it's used

525
00:25:21.529 --> 00:25:23.470
in the right way, I think it can be kind

526
00:25:23.509 --> 00:25:23.890
of sexy.

527
00:25:24.990 --> 00:25:26.950
This seems like a good time to see what our

528
00:25:26.990 --> 00:25:30.279
man Peaches thinks of the word bitch in this edition

529
00:25:30.420 --> 00:25:31.880
of Peachin' it real.

530
00:25:32.019 --> 00:25:34.700
Over to you, peaches. Hello there.

531
00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:36.720
Thank you, Kazza, Jules, and Smudge.

532
00:25:36.740 --> 00:25:39.400
Another segment of Peachin' it Real for you.

533
00:25:39.460 --> 00:25:41.319
And this time.

534
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:03.119
I'm going to be focusing on that word, that word

535
00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:13.759
that I loathe so much, so, so much. In various contexts, basically.

536
00:26:14.539 --> 00:26:18.759
I'm going to say the word probably quite a few

537
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:25.109
times during this, but just know that I loathe it.

538
00:26:26.099 --> 00:26:29.839
which is bizarre because I say so many other words

539
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:36.579
that could be deemed offensive. But this one, this one,

540
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:41.450
it feels deeply personal when it's uttered and in a

541
00:26:41.470 --> 00:26:45.369
very negative way, apart from when you're referring to a

542
00:26:45.910 --> 00:26:52.549
female dog. So the word bitch, sorry, the way I

543
00:26:52.609 --> 00:26:56.619
said that was very nonchalant, probably the most nonchalant anyone's

544
00:26:56.660 --> 00:27:02.190
ever said it. The word bitch. I have never and

545
00:27:02.289 --> 00:27:08.269
will never use it in an audio. I know it

546
00:27:08.369 --> 00:27:12.750
can be used and some people do find the use

547
00:27:12.789 --> 00:27:18.140
of it sexy and that would be attributed to its

548
00:27:18.259 --> 00:27:24.680
use in degradation audios and such and I think For

549
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:27.940
those of you that know me, that know my work,

550
00:27:28.500 --> 00:27:34.529
I don't venture too far into degradation. It's usually light,

551
00:27:34.730 --> 00:27:40.250
it's usually fun and cheeky, and it's not harsh. So

552
00:27:40.269 --> 00:27:42.990
I think in that kind of context, that's when it

553
00:27:43.029 --> 00:27:47.829
can be used quite well. However, due to my comfort levels,

554
00:27:47.849 --> 00:27:51.349
I wouldn't say the word, even if I were to do,

555
00:27:52.190 --> 00:27:56.700
heavy degradation. Um, I think what puts me off the

556
00:27:56.779 --> 00:28:02.940
most is just growing up with its usage in popular culture,

557
00:28:03.049 --> 00:28:06.869
in TV and movies, and it's always negative and it's

558
00:28:06.930 --> 00:28:11.990
always used in a nasty way, whether it be, um,

559
00:28:13.049 --> 00:28:17.599
a man saying it to a woman, a woman saying

560
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:21.819
it to a woman, like it's, And then there's also

561
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:25.500
the fact that it's, it's a, it's that word in,

562
00:28:26.180 --> 00:28:31.950
in prisons that should never be uttered because then a

563
00:28:32.009 --> 00:28:34.349
fight would ensue. I mean, I know that just from

564
00:28:34.390 --> 00:28:38.390
watching documentaries, I've never been to prison myself, but, and

565
00:28:38.410 --> 00:28:41.930
I think it's more of an Americanism as well, but

566
00:28:43.569 --> 00:28:48.309
a term, a word that is so widely used in

567
00:28:48.349 --> 00:28:54.049
a negative way. And that makes me feel uncomfortable. It's

568
00:28:54.130 --> 00:28:58.130
just something I wouldn't ever, ever waver on. So if, uh,

569
00:28:58.970 --> 00:29:01.450
if someone would come to me with a script and

570
00:29:02.049 --> 00:29:09.710
the word bitch were used, even in a light degradation

571
00:29:09.750 --> 00:29:13.250
sort of way, I would ask the writer if I

572
00:29:13.289 --> 00:29:16.009
could replace it with something else. And I know it

573
00:29:16.029 --> 00:29:20.970
sounds silly, but even using um, words like, um, like

574
00:29:21.509 --> 00:29:25.359
slut or, or whore, I think, but there's, there's something

575
00:29:25.579 --> 00:29:28.740
within those words. I can't, I know I used to

576
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:33.920
teach English, but there's something that just pushes me away

577
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:37.150
when I hear the word bitch. And I think it

578
00:29:37.250 --> 00:29:40.369
is probably what I've grown up with And I think

579
00:29:40.410 --> 00:29:43.799
that there's the same thing that can be said for

580
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:48.440
the use of the, the C word. I don't know.

581
00:29:48.500 --> 00:29:50.519
Am I, am I on television? Why can't I say

582
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:54.000
the C word? But yeah, I know that a lot

583
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:59.039
of Americans don't like the C word. Um, I I

584
00:29:59.099 --> 00:30:02.640
seem to remember having a conversation with, with Kazza, Jules

585
00:30:02.740 --> 00:30:04.819
and Smudge actually about this when I was on the

586
00:30:04.859 --> 00:30:10.519
podcast the first time maybe. And there's, there's cultural differences

587
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:14.849
as well. So perhaps where I was brought up, the

588
00:30:14.869 --> 00:30:18.289
word bitch was just a no, no, you know, because

589
00:30:18.309 --> 00:30:21.549
it was, it was always used in a negative way

590
00:30:21.750 --> 00:30:25.289
within an argument with, you know, it was always said

591
00:30:25.329 --> 00:30:27.880
in the heat of a, of the moment whenever I,

592
00:30:28.410 --> 00:30:32.849
witnessed it whenever I heard it. So seeing it in

593
00:30:32.890 --> 00:30:38.029
a script, seeing its usage in AE would only ever

594
00:30:38.069 --> 00:30:40.950
take me back to that place. And I think that's

595
00:30:41.019 --> 00:30:46.500
why VAs need to have those boundaries and need to

596
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:53.019
make sure that they stick to them. It's like anything,

597
00:30:53.980 --> 00:30:58.720
not wanting to be called a certain affectionate term. You know,

598
00:30:58.900 --> 00:31:01.299
some people don't like to be called darling or lovely

599
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:05.900
or sausage or baby, you know, those kind of things.

600
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:10.180
And it's probably a similar feeling, although I think there's

601
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:16.140
a lot more aggression behind it usually. Perhaps that's why

602
00:31:16.269 --> 00:31:20.730
I'm a very passive person. Aggression is never something that

603
00:31:20.809 --> 00:31:25.849
I've ever enjoyed in any way. You know, I've never

604
00:31:25.950 --> 00:31:29.670
been in a physical fight in my life I've never

605
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:36.319
been aggressive towards someone. I've had arguments, sure. But nothing's

606
00:31:36.380 --> 00:31:39.299
ever escalated to the point at which I needed to

607
00:31:39.500 --> 00:31:44.460
name call and I needed to throw something angry with

608
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:48.400
my words. And I think there is only one, and

609
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:50.789
I'm just going to finish with this, there is only

610
00:31:51.029 --> 00:31:55.529
one exception to this rule. And it's a clip from

611
00:31:55.549 --> 00:31:59.190
a movie I do not know I've never seen it.

612
00:31:59.500 --> 00:32:01.539
I've only ever seen this one clip and it looks

613
00:32:01.579 --> 00:32:06.440
like it's from maybe the 70s, this movie. And I

614
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:08.220
talked to a friend who had seen the movie and

615
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:10.339
they said that the context of the piece is that

616
00:32:11.140 --> 00:32:16.250
this man is pretending to be gay in order to

617
00:32:16.390 --> 00:32:19.269
run away from the authorities or something like that. And

618
00:32:19.289 --> 00:32:24.670
there's this clip where he says, this woman tramples all

619
00:32:24.750 --> 00:32:27.799
over some flowers right in front of his house and

620
00:32:27.859 --> 00:32:31.470
he says, you dirty bitch, look what you did to

621
00:32:31.509 --> 00:32:35.470
my peonies. And that is the only acceptable time that

622
00:32:35.529 --> 00:32:39.150
I've actually enjoyed the word. So perhaps it just needs

623
00:32:39.190 --> 00:32:41.910
to be used in a comedic sense.

624
00:32:42.740 --> 00:32:43.180
I don't know.

625
00:32:43.779 --> 00:32:45.480
Or maybe it was the way it was said.

626
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:47.380
Yeah.

627
00:32:47.779 --> 00:32:52.940
So perhaps every word can be changed in some way

628
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:59.759
for it to be used appropriately. But, um, That is

629
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:02.559
a very hard line for me, and I'm sure it

630
00:33:02.619 --> 00:33:05.380
is for others. I talked to a VA earlier about

631
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.769
this particular thing, and they totally agreed with me. They

632
00:33:08.809 --> 00:33:13.829
had never used the word in an audio before, and

633
00:33:14.730 --> 00:33:17.690
I don't think I ever will, to be honest. Even

634
00:33:17.950 --> 00:33:19.849
in a comedic sense, I don't think I will, and

635
00:33:19.890 --> 00:33:23.500
that's my boundary. Anyway, I am going to pass it

636
00:33:23.539 --> 00:33:26.940
back to Kazza Jules and Smudge. This has been Peach

637
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:27.480
and It Real.

638
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:28.259
What about you, Kazza?

639
00:33:30.509 --> 00:33:31.730
So I'm just going to go like off of first

640
00:33:31.789 --> 00:33:33.769
initial gut reaction. I don't, a lot of the audios

641
00:33:33.829 --> 00:33:35.410
I listened to that I choose to listen to don't

642
00:33:35.430 --> 00:33:38.329
have the word bitch in it, but my first gut

643
00:33:38.369 --> 00:33:41.990
reaction is like, if I'm listening to an audio from

644
00:33:42.049 --> 00:33:46.119
a male VA and I'm called a bitch in the audio,

645
00:33:46.130 --> 00:33:50.559
my back gets up, but that's without context, without storyline,

646
00:33:50.819 --> 00:33:54.019
like Jules example there, once she explained the context, I

647
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:55.779
was like, oh yeah, that doesn't, that doesn't bother me.

648
00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.380
So I guess because I don't listen to a lot

649
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:02.970
of audios with, that use that word my initial reaction

650
00:34:03.029 --> 00:34:05.490
is defensive just because it's like if it's again if

651
00:34:05.529 --> 00:34:08.329
it's a male creator calling the listener a bitch um

652
00:34:09.369 --> 00:34:11.030
but again i would have to know like in what

653
00:34:11.070 --> 00:34:15.579
context in the storyline for me and maybe it's because

654
00:34:15.619 --> 00:34:19.679
i'm not like heavy into like um degradation that if

655
00:34:19.739 --> 00:34:23.239
it's part of like a sexy scene it's not going

656
00:34:23.260 --> 00:34:27.409
to do it for me personally okay so.

657
00:34:27.369 --> 00:34:30.699
We just previously discussed how we believe that that word

658
00:34:30.739 --> 00:34:33.900
doesn't affect us yep as much as people think it

659
00:34:33.940 --> 00:34:35.780
does right so in the real world somebody calls you

660
00:34:35.820 --> 00:34:39.380
it you'd be like yeah whatever why then do you

661
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:44.130
both have an adverse reaction to it in audio erotica.

662
00:34:45.269 --> 00:34:49.190
Because audio erotica like this space for me is a

663
00:34:49.349 --> 00:34:57.670
safe space it's one of intimacy connection vulnerability I feel

664
00:34:58.610 --> 00:35:01.750
like my defenses are down. Like I'm kind of, I'm

665
00:35:01.789 --> 00:35:05.469
immersing myself into a very vulnerable scene. So I think

666
00:35:05.530 --> 00:35:09.849
if in that context, the word bitch is used, I'm

667
00:35:10.309 --> 00:35:13.550
more exposed to the pain of it, I think.

668
00:35:14.550 --> 00:35:14.909
Yeah.

669
00:35:15.429 --> 00:35:17.800
Is it just the word bitch or would you like,

670
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:24.860
but have the same reaction to slut or, you know, whore?

671
00:35:28.110 --> 00:35:31.170
It's a good question. Like, again, initially visceral reaction, it

672
00:35:32.570 --> 00:35:33.389
would just be bitch.

673
00:35:34.570 --> 00:35:35.010
Yeah.

674
00:35:35.690 --> 00:35:39.610
I don't love slut or whore, but that, again, again,

675
00:35:39.670 --> 00:35:41.969
it's the, because I've listened to audios with those words

676
00:35:42.010 --> 00:35:44.670
in it and I was able to reference the context,

677
00:35:44.889 --> 00:35:47.730
it doesn't bother me as much. So you know what, actually,

678
00:35:47.769 --> 00:35:49.309
if I, if it's a context, if they're like, oh

679
00:35:49.329 --> 00:35:51.730
my God, you're such a dirty bitch, wouldn't bother me.

680
00:35:53.369 --> 00:35:54.590
So I have to know the context.

681
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:56.800
Yeah, like you just saying that just made me all

682
00:35:56.820 --> 00:35:58.440
giggly when you were like, oh, you're a dirty bitch.

683
00:35:58.460 --> 00:36:01.119
I was like, yeah, like that I like. I'm like, yeah,

684
00:36:01.300 --> 00:36:01.880
that's playful.

685
00:36:02.579 --> 00:36:05.260
I think for me, it's that even though I've been

686
00:36:05.300 --> 00:36:08.550
in this space with AE for three years and a

687
00:36:08.570 --> 00:36:12.030
couple months, that I'm still getting used to being okay

688
00:36:12.050 --> 00:36:15.530
that I like degradation sometimes, you know, even if in

689
00:36:15.750 --> 00:36:18.510
its kind of tamest forms. So I think sometimes I

690
00:36:18.530 --> 00:36:20.050
get in my own head about it and I have

691
00:36:20.070 --> 00:36:22.170
to kind of rewire my brain every time to say,

692
00:36:22.590 --> 00:36:25.090
hang on, the context of this is good. It is hot.

693
00:36:25.570 --> 00:36:28.360
It is not in a derogatory way. Like it doesn't

694
00:36:28.409 --> 00:36:30.860
just because it's degradation doesn't mean it's derogatory to you.

695
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:33.280
It's hot. This is a hot scene. So I think

696
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:35.079
I'm still dealing a little bit with the shame part

697
00:36:35.099 --> 00:36:38.449
of it that I like the slut sometimes. I like like, oh,

698
00:36:38.460 --> 00:36:40.360
you sexy bitch. You know, I think I'm still getting

699
00:36:40.420 --> 00:36:44.030
used to that. Are you smudging?

700
00:36:45.989 --> 00:36:47.489
I don't give a crap.

701
00:36:48.250 --> 00:36:50.349
I don't. You love it.

702
00:36:50.369 --> 00:36:50.800
I love it.

703
00:36:50.929 --> 00:36:51.690
Yeah. Yeah.

704
00:36:52.630 --> 00:36:55.489
But it's not a word that doms will use very often.

705
00:36:56.150 --> 00:36:56.699
It's just not. Oh.

706
00:36:57.300 --> 00:37:01.860
Whore and slut are probably two of the top dom words.

707
00:37:01.900 --> 00:37:08.260
Bitch doesn't... Really? Yeah, it's not... It's not in my world. Obviously,

708
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:11.849
there's a lot of different worlds, but in my world,

709
00:37:12.010 --> 00:37:15.889
it's not used. I was just interested because, Kazza, you

710
00:37:15.929 --> 00:37:20.829
said about the fact that it's a safe space and...

711
00:37:21.489 --> 00:37:26.170
you're vulnerable, et cetera. The vulnerability, the safe space I

712
00:37:26.210 --> 00:37:30.019
absolutely get, totally, totally get. But the vulnerability side, if

713
00:37:30.059 --> 00:37:31.880
you're out and a strange man calls you a bitch

714
00:37:32.019 --> 00:37:35.889
in the street, you're still vulnerable, right? There's a, there's a,

715
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:38.360
or is that not, not the case?

716
00:37:38.380 --> 00:37:40.219
It doesn't feel the same. Like if I'm out, if

717
00:37:40.300 --> 00:37:41.849
I'm walking out in the street and I'm like, you know,

718
00:37:41.929 --> 00:37:43.849
walking into a shop or someone and someone's like, look

719
00:37:43.869 --> 00:37:49.170
at that fucking bitch. I'm not, I guess just because

720
00:37:49.289 --> 00:37:52.190
as a woman walking in the world, my defenses are up.

721
00:37:52.699 --> 00:37:53.530
They have to be. Right.

722
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:53.949
Okay.

723
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:54.489
Yeah.

724
00:37:54.570 --> 00:37:59.190
If I'm at home or somewhat like listening to an audio,

725
00:38:00.710 --> 00:38:03.710
my defenses are down because I'm immersing myself into this

726
00:38:03.949 --> 00:38:08.320
very vulnerable scene. So I don't have, I don't have

727
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:10.019
my defenses up like I do walking in the world.

728
00:38:11.099 --> 00:38:13.360
So both of you, you're in a, you're watching, you're listening, watching,

729
00:38:13.860 --> 00:38:21.300
you're listening to an audio and it's a light M-DOM, one,

730
00:38:21.500 --> 00:38:22.400
you know, very light.

731
00:38:22.699 --> 00:38:22.940
Yeah.

732
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:27.090
And the dom says, get on your knees, you fucking bitch.

733
00:38:28.329 --> 00:38:29.329
Okay, that's not my dom.

734
00:38:29.849 --> 00:38:30.510
I know, I was like, oh.

735
00:38:30.510 --> 00:38:31.929
Oh, sorry. I was like, oh, wait.

736
00:38:31.989 --> 00:38:32.949
Is that not light dom?

737
00:38:33.090 --> 00:38:33.769
No.

738
00:38:35.650 --> 00:38:36.469
Okay.

739
00:38:36.869 --> 00:38:39.789
They say, gorgeous goddess.

740
00:38:39.909 --> 00:38:42.429
You're mine, you fucking bitch.

741
00:38:43.590 --> 00:38:44.349
Is that light?

742
00:38:46.300 --> 00:38:49.880
Well, I mean, light dom would probably never have the

743
00:38:49.900 --> 00:38:50.460
word bitch in it.

744
00:38:51.619 --> 00:38:58.630
Okay, so just a Dom. And middle to heavy, Dom. Yeah. Okay,

745
00:38:58.650 --> 00:39:02.489
so just in an audio, somebody says to you, the

746
00:39:03.050 --> 00:39:10.460
male creator says to you, you fucking bitch. How does

747
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:13.559
it make you feel? What does it make you feel

748
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:14.659
in that audio?

749
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:16.719
I need the context. I need the storyline.

750
00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:22.429
All right. So you're in his dungeon and you're already consented.

751
00:39:22.530 --> 00:39:22.829
Okay.

752
00:39:22.989 --> 00:39:25.789
Because it's all about consent in A & E, right?

753
00:39:25.929 --> 00:39:26.190
Yeah.

754
00:39:26.210 --> 00:39:29.349
So you've consented to be there. You're his submissive and

755
00:39:29.369 --> 00:39:31.309
he tells you to get on your fucking knees, you bitch.

756
00:39:32.769 --> 00:39:33.030
Fine.

757
00:39:33.150 --> 00:39:34.769
What does it make you feel?

758
00:39:37.590 --> 00:39:38.929
In that context, fine.

759
00:39:38.949 --> 00:39:39.070
Me too.

760
00:39:39.090 --> 00:39:41.980
Because it's like I'm in a scene as a submissive.

761
00:39:43.219 --> 00:39:43.539
Okay.

762
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:47.420
So what scenes in AE would mean that the word

763
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:51.300
bitch is used... in a context that would upset you?

764
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:54.679
Just playing devil's advocate.

765
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:56.219
Yeah, no, this is a good question.

766
00:39:56.260 --> 00:39:57.639
It's a good question.

767
00:39:57.659 --> 00:39:59.260
I think if it's like, I think if it was

768
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:01.710
in a, in an audio where it's unexpected. So if

769
00:40:01.769 --> 00:40:05.829
I'm listening to like a BFE, a boyfriend energy audio. Yeah.

770
00:40:06.269 --> 00:40:08.449
Or like a gentle Dom, like when I think of

771
00:40:08.530 --> 00:40:12.309
gentle Dom, I think of someone like peaches, right. You know,

772
00:40:12.710 --> 00:40:16.340
he does some harder Dom stuff too, but like, I

773
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:20.489
could never picture like, in one of the gentle dom

774
00:40:20.610 --> 00:40:23.110
audios being like calling the listener a bitch.

775
00:40:24.449 --> 00:40:27.110
Um yeah and a lot of them i feel like

776
00:40:27.150 --> 00:40:30.289
have the tag and enemies to lovers that not again

777
00:40:30.329 --> 00:40:32.889
i'm not i'm just saying some of them because you

778
00:40:32.909 --> 00:40:35.329
start out really not liking each other or you know

779
00:40:35.349 --> 00:40:37.610
you have that tension we've talked about before and so

780
00:40:37.730 --> 00:40:40.789
that sometimes kind of starts off the audio when you're

781
00:40:40.849 --> 00:40:42.809
enemies and then once you become lovers you don't hear

782
00:40:42.849 --> 00:40:45.489
the bitch as much it's usually like a prelude to

783
00:40:45.510 --> 00:40:48.349
the actual act, I feel like, in a lot of audios.

784
00:40:48.409 --> 00:40:50.949
It happens before. And when you're in it, in that

785
00:40:50.989 --> 00:40:54.179
kind of BFE or gentle Dom, it's not used during

786
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:56.719
the sex part. Yeah. Right?

787
00:40:57.179 --> 00:40:59.019
Yeah, like enemies to lovers, I could hear them being like,

788
00:40:59.059 --> 00:41:00.659
oh my God, you're such a fucking bitch.

789
00:41:00.699 --> 00:41:01.699
Yeah, like God.

790
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:04.800
But in that scene, it's helping to build the tension.

791
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:05.820
Yes.

792
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:12.789
Of the enemies, and then they become lovers. So it's intentional. Yeah,

793
00:41:12.829 --> 00:41:15.019
it would be weird to just have it like, Once

794
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:17.340
you get to the, after the enemies into the lovers

795
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.980
part to have it starting to be used would be.

796
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:23.980
Yeah. But even, but even, but even smudgy, I want

797
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:25.659
to go back to, I want to go back to

798
00:41:25.699 --> 00:41:28.530
what you said though, about when you said. like if

799
00:41:28.570 --> 00:41:30.269
you were in a scene and they said like, get

800
00:41:30.309 --> 00:41:32.670
on your fucking knees, bitch. My first thought was that's

801
00:41:32.710 --> 00:41:34.630
hot because even though I'm a submissive, I've got the

802
00:41:34.670 --> 00:41:37.150
power because he just called me a bitch. So I

803
00:41:37.210 --> 00:41:40.250
know that I'm actually like driving him fucking crazy. He

804
00:41:40.289 --> 00:41:44.070
just can't tell me. That's how I took that. It's like, yeah, like,

805
00:41:44.510 --> 00:41:46.650
God damn, get on your knees, bitch. Like you fucking

806
00:41:46.690 --> 00:41:48.829
got me, but you can't actually say that. That's how

807
00:41:48.969 --> 00:41:50.590
I took that. I got like all like warm.

808
00:41:50.650 --> 00:41:52.030
I was like, okay, when you say it like that,

809
00:41:52.050 --> 00:41:53.090
I'm like, oh, that is kind of hot.

810
00:41:53.110 --> 00:41:56.269
Before it wasn't. Yeah. Like, and again, I don't want

811
00:41:56.289 --> 00:41:58.210
to say like it's the empowerment part, but like, You

812
00:41:58.289 --> 00:41:59.230
still have the power.

813
00:41:59.250 --> 00:41:59.369
Right.

814
00:42:00.010 --> 00:42:01.340
Even if it doesn't seem it.

815
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:02.480
Yeah.

816
00:42:02.619 --> 00:42:03.880
Does that make sense?

817
00:42:03.900 --> 00:42:04.340
Yeah.

818
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:04.969
I get it.

819
00:42:04.980 --> 00:42:06.320
I get it.

820
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:12.599
But it feels complicated for me because I have one,

821
00:42:13.579 --> 00:42:16.719
you know, I have one conception of the word bitch.

822
00:42:17.429 --> 00:42:21.329
It's just how I feel about it. It's irrelevant then

823
00:42:21.349 --> 00:42:24.989
of the content because I've got that word. This is

824
00:42:25.030 --> 00:42:27.929
how it makes me feel in all circumstances, whether it's

825
00:42:27.949 --> 00:42:29.389
said to be by a woman, whether it's said to

826
00:42:29.429 --> 00:42:31.730
be by a man, that type of thing in audio

827
00:42:31.769 --> 00:42:32.170
and stuff.

828
00:42:32.190 --> 00:42:32.789
Okay.

829
00:42:33.289 --> 00:42:38.980
So I don't understand the differences of the context of it,

830
00:42:39.219 --> 00:42:41.460
but I get as well that when you're listening to

831
00:42:41.500 --> 00:42:44.500
an audio, you are in certain moods and you listen

832
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:46.760
to certain audios because you're in certain moods, right?

833
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:47.260
Yeah.

834
00:42:47.300 --> 00:42:50.510
So in that, I absolutely get, and it's probably why,

835
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:56.219
having you know did some research within quinn that it's

836
00:42:56.300 --> 00:42:57.780
not a word that's highly.

837
00:42:57.659 --> 00:43:00.260
Used it's used yeah right.

838
00:43:00.099 --> 00:43:04.639
But normally having gone through i reckon i looked listened

839
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.019
to not in in full but went through transcripts as

840
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:13.159
well i'll be honest probably 50 audios in the region

841
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.960
of 40 to 50 audios and the majority of one

842
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:20.119
with the tags bitch use it once twice maximum the

843
00:43:20.139 --> 00:43:22.849
majority is one okay Just one.

844
00:43:23.070 --> 00:43:24.769
During the entire idea? Yeah.

845
00:43:25.010 --> 00:43:25.349
Yeah.

846
00:43:25.389 --> 00:43:25.730
Okay.

847
00:43:25.929 --> 00:43:29.949
Yeah. There was one that I came across. It had 11.

848
00:43:29.949 --> 00:43:30.349
Whoa.

849
00:43:31.369 --> 00:43:32.889
Okay. That's a lot.

850
00:43:33.190 --> 00:43:33.610
That's going to be.

851
00:43:33.650 --> 00:43:38.539
I know. Yeah. I will tell you the name. Two seconds. Wow.

852
00:43:38.539 --> 00:43:38.619
11.

853
00:43:38.619 --> 00:43:39.219
I've got to.

854
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:39.739
Yeah.

855
00:43:39.820 --> 00:43:46.599
So it was Sweet Lover. It was in October the 20th, 2023.

856
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:49.179
It was an F for A and it was entitled

857
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:54.250
You Hire a Dominatrix. And it was 11 times. Now,

858
00:43:54.269 --> 00:43:56.269
when I go into the transcript, I was pressing the

859
00:43:56.309 --> 00:43:58.050
search button and I just put the word bitch in

860
00:43:58.090 --> 00:43:59.869
it and it comes up and it highlights all of

861
00:43:59.909 --> 00:44:03.059
the ones that it was normally one out of one.

862
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:05.400
Who's the voice actor of that one?

863
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:07.000
That's Sweet Lover.

864
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:07.920
Oh, Sweet Lover.

865
00:44:08.019 --> 00:44:08.179
Okay.

866
00:44:08.699 --> 00:44:08.880
Yeah.

867
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:14.139
So, and this one was, I think the most was

868
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.010
three out of all of those ones that I looked at.

869
00:44:17.949 --> 00:44:20.309
Except this one, which was 11. But the majority, I

870
00:44:20.349 --> 00:44:24.750
would say a good 90% of them were just one reference.

871
00:44:26.190 --> 00:44:27.570
With the use of the word bitch in it.

872
00:44:27.889 --> 00:44:28.739
Okay.

873
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:32.460
But it's, I know the tags are quite heavily used

874
00:44:32.500 --> 00:44:36.079
and I get why Quinn do them. Just like, I

875
00:44:36.099 --> 00:44:38.659
think we talked in the last episode about Spank. spanking

876
00:44:38.699 --> 00:44:40.679
you can't call it spanking if you hit somebody once

877
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.909
yeah the one spank tag oh yeah one spank yeah

878
00:44:44.190 --> 00:44:49.030
yeah so why not just say one bitch yeah i

879
00:44:49.030 --> 00:44:50.710
don't know because if i if i look for if

880
00:44:50.789 --> 00:44:52.909
i search for a for a tag and the tag

881
00:44:52.969 --> 00:44:55.130
i'm looking for is bitch and i listen to the

882
00:44:55.170 --> 00:44:58.469
whole audio and right at the very end the word

883
00:44:58.530 --> 00:45:01.269
bitch is used or it's only used once i'm going

884
00:45:01.289 --> 00:45:02.389
to be kind of disappointed you're.

885
00:45:05.110 --> 00:45:08.610
See, even that is interesting, like the different perspectives, because

886
00:45:09.190 --> 00:45:15.409
my perspective was if it's tagged bitch and I don't

887
00:45:15.469 --> 00:45:17.670
like that word, I'm not going to listen to the

888
00:45:17.829 --> 00:45:20.690
audio and then get annoyed when I find out it

889
00:45:20.730 --> 00:45:23.389
was only once at the end because I could have listened.

890
00:45:23.469 --> 00:45:24.659
Because you could have listened.

891
00:45:24.909 --> 00:45:28.340
Yeah. So, yeah, one bit. I know there's the transcript

892
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:29.860
that you can go and, like, check it out, but

893
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:31.619
who wants to read a transcript before you listen to

894
00:45:31.659 --> 00:45:32.059
the audio?

895
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:33.579
Honestly, I always forget about the transcripts, yeah.

896
00:45:33.929 --> 00:45:36.409
There was, I think there was, I will make sure

897
00:45:36.429 --> 00:45:38.070
that they're in the show notes, but there was one

898
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:39.940
audio that I came across. There could be many. There

899
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:41.539
was one audio that came across that had the word

900
00:45:41.579 --> 00:45:43.239
bitch in the fucking title and didn't have the word

901
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:44.159
bitch in the transcript.

902
00:45:45.179 --> 00:45:46.519
Oh, that's a new one.

903
00:45:47.059 --> 00:45:47.340
Damn.

904
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:53.380
Absolutely missold. I would like to return and get my

905
00:45:53.420 --> 00:45:53.860
money back.

906
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:58.159
Do you think, and I'm just like, no, I'm just

907
00:45:58.179 --> 00:46:00.119
going to say it. So when I hear the word, okay,

908
00:46:00.139 --> 00:46:02.070
so like, you know, slut to me, that kind of

909
00:46:02.110 --> 00:46:04.320
rolls off the tongue a little better. Bitch to me

910
00:46:04.380 --> 00:46:05.800
is a sound harsh.

911
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:06.880
I feel like I.

912
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.820
Would even if I heard it 11 times in one audio,

913
00:46:09.860 --> 00:46:12.519
I feel like maybe it would affect me a little

914
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.139
bit because it is such a harsh sounding word. So

915
00:46:15.179 --> 00:46:17.170
maybe that's why they use it a little bit more sparingly.

916
00:46:17.230 --> 00:46:19.170
But I don't know. I've never thought about that in

917
00:46:19.210 --> 00:46:19.769
the audios.

918
00:46:20.349 --> 00:46:22.690
But see, there's the context thing, right? So 11 times

919
00:46:22.750 --> 00:46:25.610
in an audio, you hired a female dominatrix.

920
00:46:25.630 --> 00:46:26.210
Okay, right.

921
00:46:26.650 --> 00:46:29.440
So of course, like it's F4A.

922
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:30.260
Yes.

923
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:31.380
It's a dominatrix.

924
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:31.469
Yes.

925
00:46:32.579 --> 00:46:33.960
Like, that makes sense to me that there would be

926
00:46:33.980 --> 00:46:34.860
a lot of uses of bitch in there.

927
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.199
There'd be a lot, right. Whereas if it was, like

928
00:46:37.219 --> 00:46:38.099
you said, a peach is.

929
00:46:38.059 --> 00:46:44.239
B-F-E, no, that wouldn't. For me, then if that's the case,

930
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:47.179
then in H-doms, why don't they use the word bitch

931
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:47.559
more then?

932
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:50.400
Well, because it's a male.

933
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:52.599
Yeah, do you think they're... Yeah, exactly that.

934
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:53.380
Right, yeah.

935
00:46:53.849 --> 00:46:54.349
Exactly that.

936
00:46:54.429 --> 00:46:56.760
I would be worried as a male VA to do

937
00:46:56.780 --> 00:46:57.380
that too much.

938
00:46:57.719 --> 00:46:59.920
Yeah, because like as we've talked about, if a man

939
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.320
calls me a bitch, it lands differently than a woman

940
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:03.440
when a woman does.

941
00:47:04.019 --> 00:47:04.760
Yeah.

942
00:47:04.860 --> 00:47:08.079
And I think, yeah, I think it makes sense to

943
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:13.150
me that a male H-dom wouldn't, it's just, it's a

944
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:14.219
delicate line you'd have to walk.

945
00:47:14.469 --> 00:47:15.409
For me, it's really strange.

946
00:47:15.449 --> 00:47:17.070
I was going to say, you as someone who likes,

947
00:47:17.369 --> 00:47:19.750
you know, really hard dom, how do you feel about

948
00:47:19.769 --> 00:47:23.929
being called a bitch in? It just doesn't, Well, you

949
00:47:23.949 --> 00:47:24.889
said it's not something that just.

950
00:47:24.949 --> 00:47:27.750
It doesn't really happen. I like whore and slut.

951
00:47:27.769 --> 00:47:28.670
Okay.

952
00:47:29.170 --> 00:47:31.550
So why do you think that doms... Because in your experience,

953
00:47:31.570 --> 00:47:33.349
you said doms don't typically use bitch.

954
00:47:33.750 --> 00:47:34.389
Why don't they?

955
00:47:34.429 --> 00:47:34.550
No.

956
00:47:35.630 --> 00:47:39.880
Because I think that it's what we've just worked out.

957
00:47:39.969 --> 00:47:42.860
It doesn't have as big an effect on people, which

958
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:46.480
is why I'm confused as to why then Quinn or

959
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:51.989
other platforms for AE and yourselves... have such an aversion

960
00:47:52.050 --> 00:47:54.579
to it being in audios, in audio erotica?

961
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:59.280
Well, no, I think it does still have a major

962
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:04.469
impact when it comes to that space. Like we talked about,

963
00:48:04.650 --> 00:48:07.389
if someone rando calls me a bitch, it's like, whatever.

964
00:48:07.849 --> 00:48:08.550
Yeah.

965
00:48:08.590 --> 00:48:10.690
So I think it's the intimacy of the space and

966
00:48:10.710 --> 00:48:14.869
the vulnerability of the space that... bitch still lands hard

967
00:48:14.889 --> 00:48:16.389
slut and whore but do you.

968
00:48:16.309 --> 00:48:18.130
Think also a part of it could be that when

969
00:48:18.150 --> 00:48:20.690
you say slut and whore those are those words are

970
00:48:20.809 --> 00:48:24.960
tied to sex like yep like literally tied to sex

971
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:27.599
and bitch can have so many different meanings not really.

972
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:31.900
Good points at all yes really good point yeah yeah

973
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:34.260
that's where my mind goes i hadn't thought about it

974
00:48:34.300 --> 00:48:36.440
that way but there are lots of variations of the

975
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:38.440
way that the word bitch is used like there was

976
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:40.400
a lot that i that I listened to that it

977
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:42.179
was all like, oh, you know, don't be such.

978
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.760
A bitch, you know, and stuff. So just going to

979
00:48:45.780 --> 00:48:49.110
play just a clip of three different ways that the

980
00:48:49.150 --> 00:48:54.869
word bitch has been used in audio erotica. Such a

981
00:48:54.929 --> 00:49:02.619
pretty fucking bitch. You know how I use your pretty

982
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:03.460
little bitch cunt.

983
00:49:03.500 --> 00:49:04.039
Don't you?

984
00:49:05.780 --> 00:49:10.099
Bitch, it's okay to be excited. Right, so those three

985
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:12.940
very different, they may sound very similar, but they're not.

986
00:49:20.179 --> 00:49:23.420
very different. So the first one, obviously, I mean, he

987
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:24.900
called a cunt a bitch.

988
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:26.519
Yeah.

989
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:28.940
But that was Xander, right?

990
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:29.920
That was Xander, right?

991
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:30.219
Yeah.

992
00:49:30.380 --> 00:49:31.800
He can get away with anything.

993
00:49:31.820 --> 00:49:32.960
Yeah, I know.

994
00:49:32.980 --> 00:49:33.280
I know.

995
00:49:33.300 --> 00:49:34.519
I was like, that's totally Xander.

996
00:49:34.579 --> 00:49:36.059
He can get away with anything.

997
00:49:36.139 --> 00:49:36.900
Yeah.

998
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:40.179
But do you know what I mean? He's like, Fucking

999
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:45.159
and saying, you know, being very derogatory about you as

1000
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.139
a bitch. But then he calls your cunt a bitch.

1001
00:49:49.820 --> 00:49:51.659
I didn't know quite how to... I didn't know how

1002
00:49:51.780 --> 00:49:54.260
I felt about that. Me being called a bitch?

1003
00:49:54.409 --> 00:49:54.590
Yeah.

1004
00:49:54.619 --> 00:49:56.630
I don't think anyone has ever called my cunt a bitch.

1005
00:49:56.650 --> 00:49:59.210
Don't you call my cunt a bitch? You son of

1006
00:49:59.230 --> 00:49:59.510
a bitch.

1007
00:50:00.829 --> 00:50:02.230
Your cunt gets stuff done. I'm very protective.

1008
00:50:02.550 --> 00:50:06.610
Yeah, I'm very protective over her. Thank you. So the

1009
00:50:06.989 --> 00:50:12.719
second one is... very light-hearted, playful, oh, bitch, please, type

1010
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:16.750
of thing. Yeah, a little please. Yeah. Obviously, yeah, from

1011
00:50:16.769 --> 00:50:21.829
a female creator or a femme creator. And the third

1012
00:50:21.989 --> 00:50:30.090
one was a femme dom calling either, whoever the listener is,

1013
00:50:31.309 --> 00:50:33.909
you know, I'm going to make you my little bitch.

1014
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:39.769
So that power. Yeah, power play. So, First one, really derogatory,

1015
00:50:40.030 --> 00:50:45.000
really like degradation stuff. Second one, lighthearted, friendly use of

1016
00:50:45.019 --> 00:50:47.519
the word bitch. Second one, power use.

1017
00:50:47.980 --> 00:50:49.239
Yeah.

1018
00:50:49.780 --> 00:50:53.159
So many different variations. So I would be so fucking

1019
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:58.119
interested to understand what both your reactions were to those

1020
00:50:58.179 --> 00:50:59.250
variations of uses.

1021
00:50:59.969 --> 00:51:02.710
I mean, I started twirling my hair while I was

1022
00:51:02.769 --> 00:51:05.710
listening to it. I got like giggly listening to it

1023
00:51:05.789 --> 00:51:08.809
and it didn't, I liked it. I'm going to be honest.

1024
00:51:08.869 --> 00:51:09.110
I did.

1025
00:51:09.150 --> 00:51:11.760
I liked all three. A lot.

1026
00:51:11.780 --> 00:51:14.219
Because they were snippets and there was no major context

1027
00:51:14.260 --> 00:51:15.260
or just because.

1028
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:15.659
No.

1029
00:51:15.980 --> 00:51:19.139
I mean, I know the kind of audios Xander does. So,

1030
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:21.639
you know, like I kind of... That didn't surprise me

1031
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:25.139
that he spoke like that. I don't know.

1032
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:25.500
I just.

1033
00:51:26.510 --> 00:51:28.179
I liked it. I think it sounded good, and I

1034
00:51:28.219 --> 00:51:30.219
think maybe because I also know what the context is,

1035
00:51:30.260 --> 00:51:33.139
and it's in an AE, it's in an audio. You're right, though,

1036
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:36.000
the context. If this was a Strangers to Lovers audio,

1037
00:51:36.019 --> 00:51:38.440
I'm not sure. I'd be like, you're gonna make me

1038
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:40.960
your bitch? What are you talking about? Like, I don't

1039
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:44.269
even know you, but from the snippets you sent, though,

1040
00:51:44.429 --> 00:51:46.329
I liked them. I liked how they sounded.

1041
00:51:47.630 --> 00:51:47.969
Tessa?

1042
00:51:49.949 --> 00:51:54.329
Yeah, similar, like, I love Xander and all of his audios,

1043
00:51:54.550 --> 00:51:58.119
so I was able to soften a little bit to

1044
00:51:58.179 --> 00:52:01.219
it because it's him, but there is a part of

1045
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:04.570
me that is kind of like, Xander, you don't sing

1046
00:52:04.619 --> 00:52:07.670
that to me. Even though he does, he does those

1047
00:52:07.730 --> 00:52:10.929
kinds of audios. So there was a part of me

1048
00:52:10.949 --> 00:52:14.550
that was a little bit, I felt like confused inside

1049
00:52:14.630 --> 00:52:19.369
because I love his audio so much, but then he's

1050
00:52:19.429 --> 00:52:21.960
calling like, like, a bitch cunt or a cunt bitch.

1051
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:24.010
I don't know what it was.

1052
00:52:24.030 --> 00:52:24.639
A bitch cunt.

1053
00:52:24.869 --> 00:52:29.070
So it was confusing for me. But I think it

1054
00:52:29.090 --> 00:52:30.750
was also confusing for me because it was part of

1055
00:52:30.769 --> 00:52:32.030
me that was like, oh my god, this is kind

1056
00:52:32.050 --> 00:52:32.329
of hot.

1057
00:52:32.969 --> 00:52:33.289
Right?

1058
00:52:33.309 --> 00:52:35.409
And I think it's because it's Xander. And, you know,

1059
00:52:36.090 --> 00:52:41.119
so again, who's saying it matters to me. The middle

1060
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:43.659
one was just a playful like, oh, bitch, please. So

1061
00:52:43.699 --> 00:52:45.739
that feels like nothing to me. I don't really care.

1062
00:52:47.380 --> 00:52:51.309
The third one What was it like, Making My Little Bitch?

1063
00:52:51.630 --> 00:52:56.489
Yeah, it's like the F-Dom making the listener their bitch.

1064
00:52:58.210 --> 00:52:58.909
They're the power.

1065
00:53:01.489 --> 00:53:02.869
Yeah, I think I'm okay with that one.

1066
00:53:02.889 --> 00:53:05.090
I don't know.

1067
00:53:05.110 --> 00:53:06.090
Honestly, I need to hear it again.

1068
00:53:06.110 --> 00:53:11.869
Turn you into my perfect little plaything.

1069
00:53:12.769 --> 00:53:16.969
Perfect little bitch.

1070
00:53:17.949 --> 00:53:19.639
Yeah, no, I didn't like that one. I don't think.

1071
00:53:21.019 --> 00:53:23.590
Again, I think I need the context, though.

1072
00:53:25.110 --> 00:53:26.329
It's an F-dom.

1073
00:53:26.469 --> 00:53:27.849
Oh, right, right, right.

1074
00:53:28.190 --> 00:53:31.050
Of course, turn you into my perfect little plaything. Turn

1075
00:53:31.070 --> 00:53:32.230
you into my perfect little bitch.

1076
00:53:32.250 --> 00:53:34.130
That's the purpose.

1077
00:53:34.820 --> 00:53:36.639
Yeah, it is the purpose, but it's funny.

1078
00:53:36.659 --> 00:53:37.010
I don't know.

1079
00:53:37.070 --> 00:53:38.449
I don't know what it is about that clip smudge

1080
00:53:38.489 --> 00:53:41.750
because like turning into my perfect little play thing is

1081
00:53:41.789 --> 00:53:43.750
like kind of hot to me. But then when it

1082
00:53:43.789 --> 00:53:45.909
goes to my perfect little bitch, I'm like, fuck you.

1083
00:53:47.750 --> 00:53:48.250
It's just lit.

1084
00:53:48.510 --> 00:53:49.760
Everything is different.

1085
00:53:50.050 --> 00:53:54.920
It's just it fascinated me how many different variations. And

1086
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:58.340
also if like that first the middle one where it

1087
00:53:58.360 --> 00:53:59.679
was just, oh, bitch, please.

1088
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:00.079
Yeah.

1089
00:54:00.260 --> 00:54:02.219
I had to put the tag in bitch because it

1090
00:54:02.260 --> 00:54:05.739
has the word bitch in it. But that's the only word,

1091
00:54:06.099 --> 00:54:10.219
that's the only bitch in the whole audio. But it

1092
00:54:10.260 --> 00:54:13.530
had to be in there because does that mean that

1093
00:54:13.570 --> 00:54:16.809
just the context, it's irrelevant of the context, the word

1094
00:54:16.929 --> 00:54:20.010
itself is always deemed to be a negative?

1095
00:54:21.730 --> 00:54:24.550
Yeah, or potentially triggering enough that it.

1096
00:54:24.929 --> 00:54:25.590
Has to be warned.

1097
00:54:26.260 --> 00:54:30.260
I'll be interested to know what our clitizens' reactions are

1098
00:54:30.380 --> 00:54:34.199
to this episode and what their thoughts are based on

1099
00:54:34.780 --> 00:54:38.800
what we think, how we react to it outside of

1100
00:54:38.980 --> 00:54:41.579
AE to how we have all said we react to

1101
00:54:41.619 --> 00:54:42.449
it inside AE.

1102
00:54:43.110 --> 00:54:44.809
Yeah, we definitely need to hear from the clitizens on

1103
00:54:44.829 --> 00:54:46.610
this one. We've got to know what you think. Because,

1104
00:54:47.030 --> 00:54:53.079
I mean, there are very few English words that, That

1105
00:54:53.139 --> 00:54:56.199
carry that much contradictory kind of voltage.

1106
00:54:56.519 --> 00:54:57.090
Right.

1107
00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:00.070
You know, it depends entirely on who's saying it, to whom,

1108
00:55:00.190 --> 00:55:03.670
what tone. It's a really complicated word.

1109
00:55:03.690 --> 00:55:05.690
It's super complicated.

1110
00:55:05.710 --> 00:55:05.789
Yeah.

1111
00:55:06.449 --> 00:55:06.800
Yeah.

1112
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:14.619
And I will always, you know, be a friend to bitch.

1113
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:19.750
You've got a friend.

1114
00:55:19.469 --> 00:55:24.250
In me, bitch. You've got a friend in me, bitch.

1115
00:55:24.269 --> 00:55:25.829
Bitch.

1116
00:55:28.210 --> 00:55:28.730
Oh, man.

1117
00:55:29.010 --> 00:55:32.650
Reclaiming it or not reclaiming it, owning it, not owning it,

1118
00:55:32.710 --> 00:55:36.010
diluting it, not diluting it. It's one of those words

1119
00:55:36.409 --> 00:55:40.699
that I think has, for me, more meaning inside, for

1120
00:55:40.739 --> 00:55:43.980
its use inside of AE for being a female safe

1121
00:55:44.019 --> 00:55:48.170
space than it ever will have again ever. Outside.

1122
00:55:48.190 --> 00:55:49.590
In the real world.

1123
00:55:49.909 --> 00:55:50.090
Yep.

1124
00:55:50.449 --> 00:55:50.769
Yeah.

1125
00:55:51.030 --> 00:55:51.429
Totally.

1126
00:55:51.469 --> 00:55:51.710
Yeah.

1127
00:55:51.869 --> 00:55:54.090
Totally. Oh my goodness.

1128
00:55:54.570 --> 00:55:56.869
Extended dirty dictionary corner.

1129
00:55:56.909 --> 00:55:57.610
Damn!

1130
00:55:58.090 --> 00:55:58.730
Necessary.

1131
00:55:58.750 --> 00:55:58.829
Yeah.

1132
00:56:00.150 --> 00:56:00.909
Very necessary.

1133
00:56:00.929 --> 00:56:01.489
Yep.

1134
00:56:01.869 --> 00:56:06.050
And, you know, we're the baddest bitches in the town.

1135
00:56:06.070 --> 00:56:07.199
There you go.

1136
00:56:07.219 --> 00:56:09.920
Fucking land. There you go. And thanks again to our

1137
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:13.760
top bitch, Peaches, for another amazing, amazing segment of Peachin'

1138
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:14.219
It Real.

1139
00:56:15.610 --> 00:56:18.510
This has been your three bitches. No, I'm just kidding.

1140
00:56:19.110 --> 00:56:20.929
But really, thank you for listening. We really appreciate it.

1141
00:56:20.929 --> 00:56:23.110
And we really, really, really want to hear from you.

1142
00:56:23.530 --> 00:56:26.320
Go to our website. Leave us a voicemail. It's totally anonymous.

1143
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:31.519
You can email us, quincastpodcast at gmail.com. Socials, DMs, we

1144
00:56:31.539 --> 00:56:34.570
look at those. comments on spotify all the things like

1145
00:56:34.610 --> 00:56:36.260
we want to hear what you think about this and

1146
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:40.179
how the word bitch lands with you within ae and

1147
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:42.420
outside of ae it's there's a lot to talk about

1148
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:44.460
so thanks so much for listening we hope you enjoyed

1149
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:46.420
this episode as much as we did and we'll be

1150
00:56:46.460 --> 00:56:49.760
back with another fantastic episode before you know it but

1151
00:56:49.820 --> 00:56:53.869
for now this has been bitch kaza your voice matters

1152
00:56:54.610 --> 00:56:54.949
this has.

1153
00:56:54.909 --> 00:56:57.449
Been bitch jules go put those lips to good use

1154
00:56:58.670 --> 00:56:59.130
And this.

1155
00:56:59.030 --> 00:57:01.500
Has been Smurge. Keep bitching.