S4 Ep49 - Ramble On

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0:53 Hello Casa, Hello Smudgie, how are you. I'm very well. It's just two voices to day. I know Jewels isn't feeling well, so you're stuck with me. Well, you know, there's been worse things in life. I can't think of any of the top of my head. I'm sure there has been. Oh, poor Jewels, get well soon. Jewels, get well, Jewels. We miss you. I hope you putting those lips to good juice, chicken soup or chicken soup, and Lucas aid that's what we used to get given as kids, and I'm fairly positive they weren't that healthy. I always forget what Lucas it is, because I've heard that before.

1:35 Is that an energy drink? Yeah, isotonic, it's got electrolytes in it. And oh yeah, it's not great for health. No, I had some sort of stomach bug once and they gave it to my parents, gave it to me, and it made me even sicker. And when the doctor said, what did you give him, lucasaid, that's probably one of the best thing to do is fizzy for a start. Probably not good for a stomach, but yes. And then the chicken soups, cream of chickens, so it was full of cream. So we got a bad stomach having cream or milk. Yeah, we do chicken little soup over here. So it's a light thin broth. Oh yes, broth, it's it's cream. It's study can you can literally stick your spoon in it and it doesn't move.

2:20 Jewels, don't take that advice. Don't have any of that. I hope you're having some very thin broth. So it's just me and you for our main June episode. I know, happy Pride, Oh my god. Happy happy Pride. Yes, and we are very proud. That is Happy Pride month. We're proud of Pride. Month. We are and do you do anything for Pride Month? What do I do? You know? Back in the day, when I was a young and I did go to Pride events m h so, the parade, the parties, the I lived near Boston and so we went to Boston Pride and it was always like a beautiful day out on Boston calm in this beautiful outdoor space.

3:01 Lots of like carts and music and speeches, but it was super festive. Love is love, like just let everyone fucking live and let live and shut the fuck up. Exactly every fuck do they want to fuck or not fuck, whatever they want. It's interesting that you say that because I'm gonna I'm gonna go on this topic because I just had this conversation with a friend of mine. What's so interesting is when people think about same sex couples, the first thing they think about a sex instead of just the relationships. Everyone does it, like I mean, even when people are advocating, they'll say, you know, it doesn't matter what you choose to do in the bedroom. Why are you only thinking about me having sex? Why don't you think about me as just being in a relationship like you do going to work? You know, paying bills, going grocery shopping. That's what we do. But everybody does it. Everyone. I remember some members of my family many years after I came out, said, I know, I don't know why when you first told us, the first thing I thought about was like, was was you and Missy having sex? And I thought, you truly don't think about me and my husband having sex? And I'm like, no, I sure don't know. But it's just it's how the message is crafted out there. Because the whole Bible Leviticus bullshit. It's like, so people just focus on the sex part of it. So yeah, so that's my that's probably my newest pet pee for this year is when people talk about like same sex relationships or

4:33 you know whatever, just in terms of the sex because it's so much more. So, Yeah, I kind of feel quite bad that that's the first thing that I thought of. Why do you think that is? Though? Well, yeah, I was gonna say, don't feel bad. That's the conditioning of it, right. So part of how the people who want to keep the LGBTQ plus community down makes it focused on sex because they throw around the Bible versus Leviticus, man shall not lay with another man. The focus is always you know, it's not right for same sex people to be together because the plumbing doesn't fit, it doesn't result in a child. It's so it just focuses it all on the sex, right, And so of course that's the first thing you say, because that's what we've all been taught to focus on. And it also dehumanizes the population because it's easier to hate people when you don't think of them as people. You just think of them as these things that are having sex with each other and they shouldn't. Yeah, you know. So it's just it's very intentional and strategic the.

5:33 Start of the world at the moment. This is how I know it's not a choice. This is how I know you are born into your sexuality because I would never fucking choose to choose a man right now, So it has to be something you're born with. You can choose a fucking man right now, Jesus Christ. Well, and just even like having I mean, the only part of choice that comes in to it is choosing to be true to yourself. Yes, yeah right, because it's like I would, like I said to my family, I'm like, why would someone choose to be to live as part of a persecuted community. Yeah, why would someone choose that? I tried to choose otherwise. But like again for me, like I always talk about, you know, people over plumbing for me personally, But I just fell in love with someone who happens to have a vagina. Yeah, I didn't go seeking out a woman. She was the first woman I had ever been with. But it's like I could have chosen, and we tried. We tried for a little bit to like separate and try to go the quote easy route, like let's both go back to dating men, but we weren't as happy because we were in love with each other. And so yeah, we had to the only choice we had to make was to be true to ourselves, to be choose to be happy instead of being unhappy for the comfort and ease of others.

6:49 But ye, fair, We've been having these conversations every month since I've known you for two years. Yeah, this is just a pride month conversation. This is a conversation that should happen every since if you want to have a conversation, you know, all the time conversation. Yeah, especially with the community that we were that we I mean, how many people I know, I've seen it myself. How many people in these communities are suddenly like, I guess I'm not as straight and narrow as I thought. You know, I might, I might like some other things. And it's the beauty of the AE community. Right Yeah, No, definitely, And to be honest, and I think a lot of people are finding themselves in these communities because they were looking for something. They were looking for that thing, they were looking for the comfortability, that safety net of saying this is who I am. And I've known I could count a dozen people right now that now identify as queer because.

7:46 It so many. Yeah, I mean, like you, like you've talked about it. It's a community that you go to that you can come out for your kings, you can come out for your sexuality, you can come out. It's just yeah, it's just such a it's such a group. But yes, happy pride to our cliticians far and wide, needy rap then that was a bit of that was a bit of a primary mont. I was like with this happy pride o the Clicans far and now I'm not. Going to go on a happy pride so look at us, we're just dove write in right if you haven't figured it out yet, cliticians. This is just a chit chat session. We decided to do this June because we haven't done one of these in a long time. We have topics that we cover, important issues that we discussed, guests that we have on and it's like, you know what, let's just get on and fucking chat.

8:34 Would you call it ramble? Yeah, it's a yeah, not a ramble, fab but it's just a ramble. No. No, we're on camera. You weren't on camera maybe, but we aren't. No, okay, So what else? What else is the topic in the in the corner of your brain that you want to talk about? Casin? I mean, what I'm hearing everywhere is all about the new Quinn original with what's the nuts say? I'm someone I don't watch. I don't, I don't. I don't watch it either. Sam looks good in a sway jacket. That's what I'm calling him. Yeah, Sam Swaye, will calm. Him, Sam Swayede. It sounds like a detective right. See now I have to look it up because.

9:14 I believe you guys don't know. We're still calling him some swede. We're gonna still call him Sam sway, but for everyone's purposes, themn Hewan Sam hun he hun. Is he Scottish? Scottish? Isn't he? He is? He is? So he'll be. Hidden. Callum McKay as his character name is. That's probably easier. We're just just gonna call him Sam. And this is I mean, this is Jules. This is when we need you because you watch a lot of TV and movies and and we don't. But I am hearing that, Like even the people who kind of like roll their eyes with the Queen Originals are very excited for Sam Suaede.

9:57 It's gonna go, It's gonna run, We're gonna run with It's gonna be it. It's going to be it. And also for the first time I've seen creators, yes post videos, how excited they are. Where were they when Andrew Scott was asking me to kneel? Where Jesus? I mean, that's kind of the point of the Originals, right, like you were brought to Quinn via Andrew Scott. I was the lovely Andrew Scott. If you're out there, Andrew, if you are part of the Clitisan network, oh God, God, I'm praying to God. If you're out there. I adore you. Yes, he's clearly going to hell if there is one. I adore you, and you brought me to Quinn. And so if there are anybody out there from the Quinn sphere who works at Quinn and he's still in contact with Andrew Scott, please let them know that body loves him.

10:50 I'm sure they right to the top of their priorityars. Yeah, Caroline saw it now, But this is the first one in a while, because as we've seen, Quinn's these out rapid fire, and a lot of people are like all up in arms about it. I okay, unpopular opinion, so no surprise there comes mine is about to be. I know everyone always like pisses and moans and complains and squawks about the Quinn Originals. I get it. People get annoyed because especially since there's been so many lately, like one right after the other, right after the other. And I know that this is not new information because I've seen some people comment on it this. The Quinn Originals are a marketing tool.

11:33 They are to. Pull in new listeners, just like Andrew Scott pulled you in. So the people who are subscribers to Quinn are like, oh my God another Original and they suck and blah blah blah. They're not meant for you. They're not meant for you. They're meant to bring in new subscribers and they always work. So for that piece of it, I'm going to ask people to just take a seat, Like, if I see one more person complain about the Originals and there are marketing tool that works and they're not meant for you, that's why you don't like them. The other piece of the pie that everyone always talks about in this I can get on board with is that they promote the Originals so much so and they don't promote their in house creators.

12:15 Agreed. I wholeheartly agree on that. I think though, if I'm going to play Devil's advocate, the reason people a lot of people don't like the Originals is because they're bringing new people into the space. They're bringing new people into a space and into these communities that don't want to be that busy. They don't want to have thousands of people in their discords or their patreons or etc. Because then they become, you know, one tiny fish in a massive gray ocean. At the moment they're in these tight knit little communities, you know, where they know everybody. It's like living in a village. People who live in a village. I grew up in a village. I lived in a village all of my life, and I knew everybody.

12:59 Took me three hours to walk two hundred yards to the post office because you know everybody, and everybody stops to talk to you. You know who their uncles and their cousins are, and what they do for a living and where they buy their bread. Then you move into a massive town or city and you don't know everybody and it's all new, and it's like you feel so tiny and so small, and that once close knit community is now this massive city where nobody knows you or nobody wants to get to know you, or there's all those fears again of being being the one in the corner or the wallflower or whatever and not trusting people. So I think there's an actual fear of the space growing so big that it becomes it doesn't feel like a community anymore. And I completely understand that.

13:48 Okay, So do you think that's some of the outrage on the Quinn Originals isn't truly about them wishing the I know some deal, but like that the in house vas aren't promoted as much as the originals. Do you think it's more that they don't people don't like the numbers pouring in or both. I'm seeing kind of conversations about both, and I would agree that it's probably about both. But I think that people are more vocal around the non promotion of the current Quinn vas rather than being honest and saying that you don't want to see your communities saturated by new people who and it becoming a city. You know. And but I do also think that Quinn do need to promote their current vas more. There's a lot of creators now, there's so many, and well, you see that.

14:43 This is the other place that I get kind of like stumbly about because coming from a world of book publishing. Right when my books were published by my publisher, the first six months or so, they were really good at promoting my books. They did a lot that it was all on me because it was then the next author and then the next author, and that was just part of how it worked. It became my job to market my books. And yes it can be frustrating, but that's the arrangement like, so I think of it from that place, and it might be a little too black and white and like not emotional for people. But the Quinn vas are not employees of Quinny. People always talk about how they work for Quinn. They work for Quinn. They are a subcontractor, as people know. So really technically, like in my world, Quinn is a client of the vas, right, magic Wave is a client of the VA's Dipsy like all of those platforms, these creators choose to partner with, but they're subcontractors. And so I say that because yes, could Quinn promote their more, Yes, just like book publishers could promote their authors more. But that's not Also, that's not the business model. That combined with the fact that listeners do so much promotion we for Christ's sake, just

16:16 by having conversations. But it's not intended to promote, but it is promoting. There is so much marketing and promotion of vas out there not done by Magic Wave, Quinn Dipsy that it's like we're doing the job for them. Why would we need to do it when there's thousands there's literally thousands of people doing you know, blind listens, Yes, pogram stories, Yeah, et cetera. So, yeah, I agree with you that. And also there's not many creators that I see that promote their own audios on Quinn. You know, there's probably there's probably yeah, there's probably more that don't.

17:00 Yes, I agree, I agree. I think that the newer ones tend to promote more because they just they see that, they see what it's about. It's like, Okay, the promotion bid is on the shoulders, around my shoulders, promotion responsibility. And so yeah, I see a lot of them. I mean, you're right, not a lot. I'm trying to see, like I see like the Miles and the Atlas. I think I saw one for Rena recently. Yeah, there's You're right, there's probably fewer that do than don't, because now there's over one hundred creators. It's incredible how many creators that there's so much choice now for what you want. And also there's a lot more different platforms coming up. You know, you have the Gone Wild Audio, Dipsy, Magic Wave Quinn. But now there's these little pop ups coming up. Yeah, You've got all these little arms things like the Debts Collective and things that are popping up, and there will be more more will continue to pop up, and there will be more creatives read it. You know, there's there is thousands of creators, there's thousands of choice. Yes, so surely it makes sense that if you are a Quinn creator that you do your best to promote yourself on stand Out or your social media.

18:14 Yeah, and I will say, like I think it would be of course, it would be great if my publisher would promote my book. Still, if Quinn would promote their creators, like like the voice actor on Voice actor that they did, I thought was great. Hopefully they keep doing that. The Quinn Olympics would be great to bring those back, like let's let us get to know the creators. But then I also know it's difficult because more and more creators who join are choosing to be anonymous. Yeah, but there's still things you can do. There's still things you can do and create that would include anonymous creators. There's not the. Creator spotlights again, you just don't have to show their face, but you could do like audio, like it was nice to to get to know some of the creators. I know some creators were asked to make spotlights but then they were never shown. Yeah, you know, so it's like, yes, So I guess it sounds like I'm contradicting myself, but I do believe that they could be better about promoting the vas but they are not obligated or required to, just from a contractual standpoint. And I know that sounds cold and crass, but it's business. It's business. It's business.

19:20 Like I mean, I don't know how many subscribers Queen have got, but when we first started this podcast, I think they were on something like six hundred and fifty thousand, if I remember rightly something like that. That it's three quarters a minion or something. Ember and Ice brought in two hundred thousand in and of itself. Whether people stay, that's the difference, right because they're brought in through the originals, which are not immersive, and then they're found that the majority of the content here, if it is immersive, I wouldn't be surprised if it starts becoming more and more narrative in addition to it. But yeah, it's so a lot of people come and notes stay, a lot of people stay. So this is what I think Quinn could be doing. If they want to not only attract new subscribers but retain them, then do things like, hey, if you enjoyed Sam sways subside Sam Swayede, if you enjoyed Sam Swede's original, you might also like these creators. Yes, right, Like do that for your creators so you can then work on retaining your subscribers too.

20:24 Yeah. And also with the Queen Originals, I know there's a lot of talk about diversity and inclusion, et cetera. I mean you have to look at it and say, obviously, apart from mburn Ice, which was M for M yep, the last you know, off the top of my head, eight nine, maybe ten Queen originals of all. Been men men. Yeah. Yeah, I mean they've had some diversity in there. They've had some black creators, some Italian Asian creators, but yeah, still all men, which I get. I mean again, it's like this is when I go between like emotional and business standpoint. But Quinn was created as an app for women by women whose audience that they were targeting were primarily women who wanted to listen to men. Yeah, right, which are still the biggest winners, right, so they are feeding their target market.

21:19 Yeah, yeah, I see where you're coming from. Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, especially if they're if their target audience is It's like McDonald's, isn't it. They got a lot of stick for not bringing out the veggie bucket or lots of different options for vegetarians, and it's like it was primarily it was a burger joint and if you're not keen on that, then you go and find a vegetarian restaurant. No, I think it's more it's more of underrepresentation. I think it's it needs to be more representative of the world at large, you know, not having any figures in front of me as such as to how many of the world's popular identify as queer. But I would imagine it's it's it's yeah, it's yeah. Okay, so it's ten percent. You've got your fingers.

22:07 Yeah. So if ten percent of Quinn Originals is a representation of you know, or to be fair, they should be doing more, you know, so say the eighty twenty rule. I love the eighty twenty rule. You know, twenty percent you know of the underrepresented you know, ethnicities, sexualities, genders, however, you know, and I think it would be a much happier place. But once again, I think this all bails down to as well. Is visualization. If the underrepresented creators on Quinn are not promoted, people will look at Quinn and say they're not doing their best for representation of mariorities, right, And I'm not sure that's correct. I think we fall again back to you. This is a business. This is marketing.

22:55 They are going to market what brings in the five eight bucks a month, which but I do wholeheartedly believe that Quinn as an app and every app that's out there should be a representation of the world. So, you know, if they've got their figures right, then that's fine. But you know, it doesn't feel like they have their figures quite correct. Considering the last you know, eight to ten originals have been all men. Are you would say for you eighty twenty or that two of those ten should have been women or people who identify as women. You know, it should be along those lines. And I think that's what people are noticing. Yep, you're right, it's the underrepresentation. I mean, yeah, you can pick a woman that will will it still meet your business goals of attracting new subscribers. See, that's what's tricky enough. There's going to be a lot of editing in this because that's a process so loud that if they bring in new subscribers based off of having a female or old tomon who identifies as female original, then of beaten switch? Are you then bringing in subscribers to a platform that doesn't have a lot of the content you just teased them with.

24:07 But it depends what the female original is. The majority of the male originals have all been heterosexual audios, so there's no reason to not bring a heterosexual woman in it and have her having sex with a man, which still is out there on Quinn. As Alice told us when we interviewed her that I looked at in a completely different ways when you put yourself in as the woman in the story, you know you are you are the f Yes, okay, the m is what you would normally be, you know if it was a switch the other way around. So what's the harm in bringing in a female original and you put yourself in their position?

24:49 You know, and you see it from that side. I just think I'm not trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. What I'm just trying to say is you've had ten men, let's get a woman in please. Yeah that's coming from a heterosexual woman. Yes, I think there. Quinn need to have more representation mm hmm, but not for representation sakes. It needs to be somebody who is people want to listen to, and not just a token female. Yeah. And I'm trying to think of her name, because there's someone who I would love, Missy your wife. No, No, she would like this one too. I think we would both like this one. What is her name?

25:29 Ruby Rose? Ruby Rose? Oh? I would I would go. I would be all over that and down on it is what I do. Yeah. I saw so many videos on TikTok of people going straight, women going. Up am I street, am I am I am I Okay, Yeah, it's like, no, what you are is opening your mind up yes to sexual desires that you can can have by not. Labeling yourself being anything. Just go with the go where the fucking desires. Because then I think that you know, yes, you get a whole ton of new subscribers, But then creators like Sarah and Alice and Behold the Beauty and all of these amazing creators who are already on Quinn would get more plays, get more subscribers, because you're bringing in subscribers that would be interested in their work. Yeah, please Quinn Ruby Rose please.

26:34 Yes, from the from the queer community and the straight community, please thank you very much. Yeah, so, I mean Quinn Originals are always a topic of big discussion. Uh, and I know it's it's frustrating and really because honestly, I'm gonna be real honest, like, I haven't listened to most of them because the ones I have really have not been good. I am absolutely gonna listen to this one. Not only I don't know who the same guy is, but it's written by Holly June Smith, which in my opinion is a fantastic writer. Yeah, love her scripts. And I'm hearing fantastic stuff about this original, so yeah, I will give it one of the Scottish Any Scottish, I guess is a popular thing for people. Even for me. It's a hard language to understand. I often need subtitles for my some of my family who live in Scotland and my friends. I'm like, will you Jesus Christ please? Yeah. If anybody remembers, if anybody's from the UK listening to this, of course you were. There was a TV show called rab c Nesbit. It was a comedy show. Just google it watch thirty seconds of it.

27:42 It had to be had subtitles on it because nobody outside of glasgy Glasgow could understand it. It was horrendously shocking, but it was also a very popular comedy show. But yeah, I'm not sure that as an original Quinn, thank you don't need but q Lorri definitely, and please get Andrew Scott back because I think we need a part three. But yes, I think it's it's controversial. I think there's a lot of conversations out there about the originals. I think they are good. I think people are absolutely valid in their concerns about their smaller communities. Yeah, feeling like, you know, Quinn's ours, Queen's everybody's, you know, and and we have to let that go.

28:30 And yes, and yes, I would absolutely love to see Quinn promote their current vas more. But yeah, I mean we all do it for them, so it's like and we're all gonna get I mean, look at when over there's a drab day, the number of stories that people post about their favorites, which I think is great, Like, let's keep doing that. But yeah, Quinn, come on, you could you can bring back some fun stuff. Get your brains together. We know you're clever people over there. Yeah, it doesn't have to be one or the other, right, Like promote the originals and take care of your current subcontractors as well, because as much as they are not employees of Quinn, we hear from the creators. It's very much a family of talent, So you know, like interact more with each other.

29:18 Do your best by your creators, and you'll do the best by your audience. We'll be back to continue our little chin wag right after this month's installment of Peaching it Real with Peaches. Well every time we gets reeves, cats, thieves, honting thoughts, cone being served up every time. Thank you Kazah, Jules and Smudge, and welcome to Peaching it Reel. A little segment where I talk about anything and everything really doesn't just have to be audio erotica.

30:00 It can be about what month we're in. And this month in particular, June is one of my favorites. Not because we're all very hot and sweaty and everyone knows how I love being hot and sweaty. It's because it's Pride month and it always reminds me of how far I've come, in particular, and how far my friends have come, how far, so many of us in the world have come. Really to look back and see how much we have changed, how much more accepting we are, And it's so sad to see people try and combat it, trying to combat something so positive and full of love. So this is the time when whether or not you are part of the LGBTQIA plus community, any of the communities under this little glorious rainbow umbrella, or whether you're an ally, this is the time when we need to make sure that this positivity doesn't waiver. There are so many things, so many people fighting against it for reasons that I will never fully understand. Prejudice, hate, misunderstanding of what pride is,

31:32 of what it is to be queer, to be different, to be alternative to societal norms, so to speak. And hopefully it will become a societal norm, but that's probably quite a way off. So, more than anything, I just kind of wanted to use this little five minute ramble to remind people who perhaps have been a part of the community for a long time to keep fighting with love. Of course, for people who feel as though they can't help or support, of course you can. You know, if you're straight and this is a new thing to you, if perhaps you've been brought here by audio erotica. You don't just have to look in on the sidelines and think I'm not allowed to be a part of that community.

32:31 Of course you are. That's what the whole Pride movement is about. It's about acceptance and equality and love and just cherishing people you know. And yes it's all around gender and sexuality, but more than anything, it's about supporting one another. That's the most important thing, which leads me on to something that I have been contemplating over the last few weeks. Time in general, how we spend our time, and I know a lot of people spend their time supporting other people and not themselves. This is one of the most common requests actually that I get on CAMEO is people asking for support, asking to be seen, And I am guilty of it myself. It's such a natural thing to want to help other people when you are going through something. So if anyone's feeling that right now, stop, take a moment, ask for help, especially during Pride Month when we are spreading love, spreading happiness. Accept it. If

34:05 someone asks, if you're okay, tell them the truth. Don't just say yeah, I'm fine. The amount of times that I have said yes, I'm fine in the past, and I have been the furthest thing from it. We have to be honest with the people that want to help us, Otherwise they won't know we put on our mask when we're feeling a certain way. So let's make sure in this wonderful, joyous month that we reach out, we let people help us, and we help others in the process.

34:51 And of course in celebrating Pride Month, let's go and listen to some Pride audios. So much fun. I think you can agree. Right then, that's me. That's me for today. Sorry it got a bit deep there, but I just want to make sure that everyone is listening and understanding that it's okay to ask for help. Right then, I'm going to get out of this very sweaty booth and hand you back over to Kazah Duels and smudge thank you. You can find Peaches on Instagram and TikTok OnlyFans, and as a voice actor on the Quinn app. He also has an active Discord and Patreon community. All the links can be found in our show notes.

35:43 Love that original ramble man, we had a lot to say. I mean, I guess it is about like kind of how how consuming this space can be in great ways and in not so great ways, because it's like, well we've always talked about, right, like with the podcast, the number of hours and hours and days we put into this podcast. It's like, how to do this plus our full time jobs, plus our family and friends, plus our lives, Like you really have to like, I know, I don't know about you, Smudgie, but when I first found this whole world and then found like the communities, I was like ridiculous how much time I spent in the communities talking with people? Right, It was like holy shit, Like there's a whole community of people out there who don't judge and really like my my life outside of their suffered.

36:40 Like I my wife had to come and have conversations like are we gonna spend any time together? Because I felt like I felt like I had to be in the communities all the time, or you know, I would lose track of what was being said, or people would forget who I was, or I would disappear. It was a lot. Were you like that at the beginning? Yeah, definitely, I I wasn't more. I was a new mad I was trying to learn everything and be a part of the community, this amazing community. People around me were exactly the same. They noticed, you know. After about the first six months, I had family and friends say to me, looks much. You know, we don't do anything anymore.

37:22 You're always on your phone. And it took that kind of intervention really for me to go, Wow, that's all consuming. Two things. It gives me more empathy now for other people who I see in the communities that are they appear to be their twenty four how something. You can't do that without letting something go suffering in your other worlds. There's no way you can do it. No way. So yeah, very much all consuming. I would say, as much positive as negative. Yeah, so it turned out to be. It was all positive to start off with. Yeah, it felt brilliant.

38:10 It felt brilliant until I realized that I was awake at four am because this was happening. Yeah, just quickly checking my notification, Oh god, there's that, and then I'm on my phone for four hours, Oh my god. Yes, trying to make sure everybody's okay or you're you know, people like you. Yeah, or it was very much all consuming. And it wasn't until I realized that that parts of it were negative that I realized that parts of it were negative. Yeah, yep, that it's not all great. It's like yeah, and for me, yeah, it started with like seeing my life outside, my life offline suffer and I was like, oh, maybe this isn't but it's it's like anything else when it's new and exciting, and it's like you meet a whole bunch of new friends even though they're virtual. To start.

38:57 It's exciting and you know, the novelty of it can be consuming. But yeah, then you just have to you have to taper a little bit and be like, Okay, you know what, I I can still be part of this community and not be on their twenty four to seven and not you know, be the one who makes everyone laugh or be the one who does the funniest memes or like back when I was early, I was all about I was the clip girl, right, that was my whole identity of like, if there's a clip that is going to be said, I'm gonna have it. And then so then it became I would spend hours offline, out of the community. Then pulling clips from lives. Yeah. So it's like it was my whole life and I thought, God, no, I can't. Yeah, that's why it's like, I'm so kind of so glad that there's new people with the same kind of excitement I had back then, and now I just use their clips. Well, actually there's more gifts now.

39:47 People don't do clips. I do miss the clip. I still have my library. So I missed the clips, miss the old fashion mine. Yeah, and then again I miss my I miss my space, I think as well. Back then, especially in the FIR, at least the first six months, i'd see people saying, oh, I just need to step back. I'm just gonna step back for a few weeks or whatever a little while, and I'll be going, yeah, of course, yeah, oh my god. Yeah. In the back of my head, if I'm being brittally honest, with which I'm always honest, I was going, why this is amazing, Yeah, well I would just step back from this. Oh my god, this is just this is life. Not realizing I was answering my own fucking question. I was saying that this is everything, not realizing that that was the exact answer, that was why that person was stepping away because they'd come to the realization that just because the community changes you for the better, whether it is finding a new thing that you liked or finally being heard or seen, it doesn't mean that you owe that space the rest of you as payback.

40:54 Yeah, And that those parts of you that you found as a result of the community not going to then be lost again if you step away like you have found them now. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, right, So, but I know it can feel so fulfilling and so exciting that it's like I can't I can't possibly step away. And the other thing I had when I heard people say they were going to step away and I had the same reaction of you, is like why this place is great? I think eventually there was a part of me that didn't want to hear about people stepping back because then it did make me look at myself. I should probably be doing that too. Am I spending too much time in here? If other people are recognizing that they are? But I didn't want to face that because I just wanted to spend all my time there. So it's a tricky ride. And so, yeah, to your points much, I have a lot of empathy for people just discovering the communities and being in there a lot being like, yeah, I get it, you're you know where I where I worried as a mod Now where I worry more is when after six months or so, I don't see it starting to taper, or it's months in, or it's nine months in, and they're still in there are the time, and I'm thinking, I mean, again, it's their choice, but it's just something that I keep an eye on now, just from a mid perspective, just to make sure that people are are doing okay.

42:12 Yeah, I agree. I also think we don't know what's going on in somebody's home life, personal life. We don't know that these communities are not all they have. Yeah, so yeah, I still wouldn't judge. I wouldn't say that, you know, I still think that something in their lives is suffering. And if you're alone and you're in an online community all the time, you're not giving yourself that push to go out and meet people in the flesh. But then also these communities then I think realize that and there's a lot of meeting people in the wild. There's a lot of these communities that go out and meet other people in the community, and that unfortunately and very very sadly, some of those people that you meet in the in the community and you meet in the lives, you meet in the in real life time, they don't have a friend circle. They don't have people that they go out with or that they can rely on. That community is everything to them. Yeah, so then I think that the community can be seen as a best friend for me.

43:15 Yeah, oh my gosh, yeah, you know, and it's great. Yeah, yeah, and it's great. But and yeah, and I think I think there are people who are it might have stepped out of their comfort zone to meet people in real life and really challenged themselves to do it, and we're better for it. So it's like, yeah, this commune. I mean just this past weekend, I was out with three other members of the community who I met through the community. We went bowling, we went to a escape room, and it was like, it's so fun to meet the screen people in real life because it's like, oh my god, you're just you but just in three D Yes. Taking some of these friendships offline has been amazing and I see it all the time now in the communities, people planning little pocket meetups of like, oh my god, I live in that area too, we should get together and and people do it. It's it's so good to see.

44:03 Yeah, I think there's a there's a difference between using a community to to build that those friendships and those community groups that there's a two way support network on it. Yeah. I think my worry is that they're you know, people come into the communities and they try to be the bigger person, you know. The biggest personality. Yeah, Yeah, to be to be the person who you know, is the one who's so close to the knuckle, or the most feral or the most you know, or the you know, the most obsessed with the creator or something like that. They're using it for means that are not community right minded.

44:47 They're they're filling a void. So it's kind of like you know, how we jog about like men have a problem if women have sex toys, it's like, it's not a replacement, it's an enhancement to the relationship. So these communities, hopefully and the healthiest sense, are an enhancement to your life, yes, and not either not a replacement or an escape from it. Yes, although it can be like believe me. Like sometimes I just want to like like zone out. I'm going to go online and just kind of like disassociate. It's fine. But yeah, if it is if it's someplace that you go to for your only source of happiness, let's say, then that's kind of worth taking a look at. So if it's a replacement or an escape to an unhealthy level, then yeah, then it's kind of worth looking at.

45:36 Yeah. So I think communities can be the most amazing thing. And I think going back to again the originals and new people coming on board to Quinn, it has direct impact into these communities. Yeah, it has direct impact in the volume of people that are coming in these communities. I've noticed it in the communities that I'm in. Oh, they've increased, you know, and you know, often when they do the introductions, it used to be fun to say, oh, I came for Andrew Scott. Yeah, that used to be like perfectly normal and absolutely fine to say that. Now it feels like it's a bit of the wrong thing to say, you know, I came for Ember and Ice. Because of Ember and Ice, you know, it doesn't feel as positive as it did. Interesting, when I used to introduce myself as I spo. I found Quinn because of Andrew Scott. Yeah, where it's loud and proud, And now I think people are more wary about saying that they came for an original because well.

46:31 Because everyone's so loud about how they hate the Originals and there's too many and they're focusing on the wrong people. So I didn't even think of that, Like, what is it like as someone who comes in from one of the originals, are they then seen as the enemy because they came via a path that should have been reserved for the current vas See that's where it gets so messy. It just gets me, gets political, gets commercial, and it gets to the point where it removes all of the fun and the comfort and the communities are therefore and I think I think everybody, if you should accept everybody in. However, they found Quinn, however they found audio erotica. Nobody seems to be worried that they found audio erotica on Gone World Audio or dipsy or read it or you know, magic Wave, but they're bothered that they found it through a Queinn original. Well why is that?

47:22 Yeah, that's a good question. It feels like there seems to be a lot more talk about yeah, the Queen Originals being not the way to enter into audio erotica, and it's like, fuck off, who are you to decide what my gateway into audero erotica is. If Quinn Originals are my gateway drug into Quinn, then that's that's what I'm going to go. Yeah. Yeah, So it's kind of like, you know, don't hate the player, hate the game. Yeah, you know, if you hate that that the Queinn Originals are promoted as much as they are, I get it. Like, and I have to believe Quinn knows this because it's it is so loud everywhere about how much people get mad when another original is announced until it's someone they really like, like this this one is really like I hear even those who are usually squawking about how much they hit the original is going well but this one.

48:16 So I'm like, okay, So. So it's it's bad until you you. Really like the person or something. But yeah, it's listen, it's a business model not everyone's going to agree with, but it's a business model that brought a lot of your really good friends to this space. Yeah, and in the communities, don't don't be vocally vocal or openly writing about how you don't want all these new people in space. First off, it's not your space. It's a community space. It's an auto erotica community space. Yeah, for the most part, you do not own it. And these people that are coming in they were you, yeah a year ago, two years, three years ago, they are you yep. So how would you feel if the first comment that you saw was Oh, I don't like all these new people coming just because of the originals. Because I'm not being funny. If I'd have read a comment like that when I first found Quinn through Andrew Scott would be in this community, I wouldn't be a mod, wouldn't have met you, wouldn't be on the podcast.

49:20 Yeah, that's true. All you're doing is you're doing a disservice to these communities, is what you're doing. Yeah, Because if you're saying that you want the the quote unquote in house vas to flourish, they flourished by more people joining their communities. So it's there. They're having the success you hope for, but it's going to mean less access. For you exactly. So if you found clitar sense, if you're out there comment on whatever podcast platform that you're listening to this on and comment and tell her who you came to Quinn for and then who you stayed for, because it's different for everybody. I came for Andrew Scott, I stayed for Orcus.

50:10 Yeah. I maybe we put that up as a question our story, Okay, Yeah, I think it'll be. It can be really interesting, like, yeah, what did an original bring you here? And if so, who, and then what creators did you find as a result. Yeah, that would be really good to know. There's the market research that Quin should be. Doing exactly Queenn, Hello, marketing team at your. Service, Ry Jesus. But yeah, communities are everything. Yeah, and I think there's the communities that stay together that make people stay longer on Quinn as well. I do think there's a correlation between all these communities being built and Quinn's popularity, because, like you said, even if you looked at the eighty twenty year old one hundred people come with quin original, twenty percent will stay, eighty percent will go yep. Yeah, but those twenty percent sense day they build the communities, they stay, they start promoting, they do their fucking TikTok videos there you know, it's they have live listening parties, they buy the merch they you know, they look out for people on the street who are wearing a pink headphones and see if there's Quinn written on the side. Yeah, yep, it's it's something bigger than what I think Quinn think.

51:23 It is Quinn supports and their people's subscribers and people in these communities are people that I think Quinn need to take more notice of and they need to listen to a bit more. Yes, yeah, now that I will ark you like, tap into your market and learn about us, because I'm telling you you think it's all like Jen Alpha, No, it's all so yeah, I mean yeah, talk to your talk to your audience more. Why wouldn't you? I mean they have what do they have like these I don't can't remember what they call them where they get a group of people and they go into a fucking room and new is serious focus grips, I have it for fucking cereal. Do Quinn have a focus group for their next Queinn original or fucking what the next types of audios? Whatever? You know? Erly, they're looking at the cross section of their subscribers and their fan base.

52:16 Yeah, but again, the originals are not for subscribers. They're to extract a new subscribers. So but yeah, I mean it's. About why they stay. Get focus group focused quite subscribers. Ask one hundred Queenn subscribers who have been there for more than it, if subscribed for more than a year, and ask them why they stayed. Yeah, yeah, what keeps you coming back? Yeah? And I know they probably get that data from the play counts from the subscriber accounts. I get that, But nothing beats talking to your audience. A little survey you could put out, that's it. Yeah, Google form survey really easy. Like it's a whole different kind of market research. Even though we're all so vocal, we're all out there on social media, it's still different to have pointed questions asked to your community to help you continue to grow this because yeah, it's kind of have to evolve in some way, shape or form.

53:12 So yeah, talk to us, not necessarily us specifically. We're very busy. We're very busy. We're very busy people. But yeah, just just listen, just listen out. Just listen. I think we've I think we've rambled. I think we have, and that's been well we're going to edit this down to the not the four hour conversation that we've just had. Yeah, Nope, it's been it's been lovely. Actually, Yeah, Jewels, we miss you. We miss you, Jewels. I know we could have. Will absolutely be doing more of these chit chats because we've been lacking them and we do hear from Clitisen saying we we miss some of the times when it's just you guys yapping and because we feel like we're sitting around yapping with you, So we will yap again when Jewels as well, we were.

53:59 We were continue to yap to a heart's content and as much as you'll listen to us. So thanks lit us hands for listening to our yapp session. Me and Smudgie, we miss you, Jewels. We hope you like it, and we really are curious to hear your thoughts on some of the stuff, on all the stuff we talked about, So comment on Spotify, comment on our website, you can leave us a voicemail, you can email us at quincastpodcast at gmail dot com, all the things. Get in touch. Let us know what you think. We'd love to know. So we'll be back again soon for I hit the Spotlight coming up soon, but for now this has ben Caza. Your voice matters, and this has been. Smirche keep wanking The ess